Nice Rap Curtis.
I've got to wonder if "Buck" really wants to "fly" in the domes. I get
the feeling that he sort of enjoys that the domes are out of reach.
Plus, I don't see how you run a farm and be away for a couple hours in
the early morning. I've always assumed farm chores are early morning,
late afternoon intensive. And I know this from three or four of my
customers who live in the country and have horses.
I'm not sure that if you took away his main issue that he would be happy
about it. It's sort of, for this reason, that I don't take much of what
he says seriously. But I could be mistaken. This issues gives him some
"notoriety", if you want to call it that.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<curtisdeltablues@...> wrote:
Perhaps playing by the rules so you could actually get into the domes
you love so much would be a start. But that is up to you. Perhaps your
passion is to be the rebel guy who beats the establishment at its own
game and gets to see "saints" (I would rather receive darshan from your
livestock veterinarian.) and still go to the domes. Maybe if you get
them to change their minds you will feel the same accomplishment I feel
when I get a bunch of kids to use more figurative language in their
writing by helping them write a blues song.
>
> Perhaps collectivism and individualism is really the basic value in
play here. But you told me not to use your real name here so I am
dealing with "Buck". And Buck seems to think that he has found the
secret of life, and I have not. But Buck doesn't know shit about my
life and the passions that drive my creative life, the fulfillment it
brings me, the lives I affect through my work.
>
> He just wants me to think more like him. Like every other "I have the
secret of life and you don't" provincial perspective midget. I say,
your loss, I am doing some cool stuff with my life too.
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> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Nay, no, that is not true you guys, you cavil me. Turqb a
CurtisDb you got me wrong.
> > > > We'd be nothing without each other here. I have nothing but
goodwill towards everyone here.
> > > >
> > > > Image two guys between meditation here (a laborer on the one
hand and an intellectual on the other) coming out of Revelations Café
in Fairfield crossing over to Paradiso Cafe arm-in-arm (may be it's even
Buck and Turqb) shouting to themselves, chanting to one another in
brotherly love,
> > > >
> > > > Om ! May the Unified Field protect us both together;
> > > > may It nourish us both together;
> > > > May we work conjointly with great energy,
> > > > May our study be vigorous and effective;
> > > > May we not mutually dispute
> > > > May we not hate any.
> > > >
> > > > The world would be the better place!
> > > >
> > > > -Buck
> > > >
> > >
> > > Of course, this image would mean that Hell had just froze over
considering that Turqb declines ever to come back to be with meditative
Fairfield. But Om, the image gives hope. And just seeing it in mind
brings some tears to mine eyes.
> > >
> >
> > Think now just how many grown old sons and daughters of meditation
gone away like Turq and CurtisDb are wandering out there to come back!
The prodigal children of TM. If they'd only come home. They should be
beautiful when they'd come back and could get in to the domes, if they
can.
> >
> >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<curtisdeltablues@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I was mulling over a few versions of this post myself Barry,
but since you nailed it I can get off with just a:
> > > > >
> > > > > what he said.
> > > > >
> > > > > Favorite line:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Call the media. "Buck" has just suggested that Fairfield
> > > > > > Life be run the way the TMO is. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@>
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You know, the TM Hymn on Negativity
> > > > > > > I should think it would make a nice unified code of
conduct
> > > > > > > as an inclusive guideline for posting on FairfieldLife.
> > > > > > > Particularly for posting negativity here on FFL.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We'll miss you. :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Seriously, dude, what would you call all your endless
> > > > > > posts denouncing Bevan and the Rajas?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Negative" is a RELATIVE concept, not an absolute
> > > > > > one. I'd be willing to bet that any of the people you
> > > > > > rail against would consider you and your "Buck" char-
> > > > > > acter more than a little negative. And, from their
> > > > > > point of view, they'd be correct, because to them
> > > > > > "negative" means anything that criticizes or goes
> > > > > > against what they believe to be true and correct.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I thought that earlier you yourself were making the
> > > > > > point that the injunction to "never entertain nega-
> > > > > > tivity and never denounce anyone" was a two-edged
> > > > > > sword that could be (and, as I remember you suggest-
> > > > > > ing, was) used by the TMO to control minds and
> > > > > > opinions. I agree with that earlier assessment, and
> > > > > > feel that what you propose above is just another
> > > > > > flavor of it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Who gets to decide what is "negative" and what is not?
> > > > > > You? The mysterious "we" you refer to below? Not. Gonna.
> > > > > > Happen. :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > You know, posting on FFL is a privilege, not a right. We
> > > > > > > should do more to protect that privilege. This is a
simple
> > > > > > > guideline that is very easily enforced. Coulld just
revoke
> > > > > > > someone's FFL membership when they violate it. For being
> > > > > > > negative like that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Call the media. "Buck" has just suggested that Fairfield
> > > > > > Life be run the way the TMO is. :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Have it on the homepage as part of the forum description
so
> > > > > > > it comes up every time. It's a uniform code of justice to
> > > > > > > attend to that we could all use and our moderators
enforce.
> > > > > > > We'd all be better off and the list a safer place to be.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can think of no place on earth that would be a safer
> > > > > > place to be with someone of the "Buck" mindset running it.
> > > > > > Just sayin'.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Om ! May the Unified Field protect us both together;
> > > > > > > may It nourish us both together;
> > > > > > > May we work conjointly with great energy,
> > > > > > > May our study be vigorous and effective;
> > > > > > > May we not mutually dispute
> > > > > > > or may we not hate any.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I kind of suspected you'd come up with the more correct
translation of that hymn. Thanks Cardm,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Om ! May the Unified Field protect us both together;
> > > > > > > > may It nourish us both together;
> > > > > > > > May we work conjointly with great energy,
> > > > > > > > May our study be vigorous and effective;
> > > > > > > > May we not mutually dispute
> > > > may we not hate any.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister
<no_reply@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister
<no_reply@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"
wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Jeezus X-mas, they've been chanting it wrong
all this time!
> > > > > > > > > > > > Well then, no wonder.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > saha nau avatu .
> > > > > > > > > > > > saha nau bhunaktu .
> > > > > > > > > > > > saha viiryaM karavaavahai .
> > > > > > > > > > > > tejasvi nau;
> > > > > > > > > > > > adhiitam astu maa vidviSaavahai .
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > That's pada-paaTha (word-reading), so to speak.
> > > > > > > > > > > The saMhitaa-paaTha goes like this:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > saha naav avatu . saha nau bhunaktu . saha
viiryaM karavaavahai .
> > > > > > > > > > > tejasvi naav adhiitam astu maa vidviSaavahai .
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > That is, before a *vowel*, 'nau' changes to
'naav',
> > > > > > > > > > > without any effect on the *semantic* level.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This seems to be the most accurate translation I
could
> > > > > > > > > > find quickly:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Om ! May He protect us both together; may He nourish
us both together;
> > > > > > > > > > May we work conjointly with great energy,
> > > > > > > > > > May our study be vigorous and effective;
> > > > > > > > > > May we not mutually dispute (or may we not hate
any).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Oh, so that's the correct translation. For us
meditators here, it reads really well substituting in `Unified Field.
It's beautiful even if it is not the way Maharishi and Bevan used it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Om ! May the Unified Field protect us both together;
> > > > > > > > > may It nourish us both together;
> > > > > > > > > May we work conjointly with great energy,
> > > > > > > > > May our study be vigorous and effective;
> > > > > > > > > May we not mutually dispute (or may we not hate any).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > May He protect (avatu) us both (nau [~now]
accusative *dual*) together (saha);
> > > > > > > > > > may He nourish (bhunaktu) us both (nau) together
(saha);
> > > > > > > > > > May we work (karavaavahai) conjointly (saha)
> > > > > > > > > > with great energy (viiryam),
> > > > > > > > > > May our study be (adhiitam [study] astu [may (it)
be])
> > > > > > > > > > vigorous-and-effective (tejasvi);
> > > > > > > > > > May we not (maa: 'we' in the verb ->)
mutually-dispute (vidviSaavahai)
> > > > > > > > > > (or may we not hate any: vidviSaavahai).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > >
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