dear Raunchy, thank you but new week or old week?
________________________________ From: raunchydog <raunchy...@yahoo.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 10:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling Share's quote of the week: "...we are likely to see validation of what we already believe. I guess in that sense we're all TBs." Love it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote: > > Salya wrote: I've certainly not seen anything to contradict it. > Share replies: Reminds me of this > Seeing is believing? no > Believing is seeing? yes > Meaning that we are likely to see validation of what we already believe. I > guess in that sense we're all TBs > > Maybe when people take on enlightenment as a goal, that in and of itself puts > pressure on the person to be a certain way. If unable to live up to such > ideals, it could cause irritability, etc. As I get older I've found it best > to take such goals lightly. Just do my best. Leave the rest up to Life. > > > As for the list, it seems to contradict itself viz a viz loss of interest in > judging others.  > > Thank you for this. I enjoyed reading and replying. > > > ________________________________ > From: salyavin808 <fintlewoodlewix@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 4:34 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: mind boggling > > >  > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > So Xeno writes the other day to Judy: > > > > "I feel Barry is more spiritually advanced than Robin" > > > > This alone made my head spin. But just, for example, take a look at Robin's > > commentary to Emily after she took his quiz yesterday (post 317866) and > > explain to me how you could possibly argue for this point Xeno. What > > exactly is your definition of spiritual? Maybe it is something I don't want > > to aspire to or can view as a positive thing if that is your assessment. If > > spirituality has anything whatsoever to the quality of heart, openness, > > willingness to understand, desire to be transformed by truth and life, > > sensitivity to other living creatures then, dear Xeno, I think you have > > miscalculated badly - your assertion has missed the mark. > > > > I guess it boils down to that most curious trait that makes people > in the TMO (and perhaps other groups) ascribe enlightenment to > people simply because they like them. I used to get it a lot, maybe > becuase I'm of a generally sunny disposition and , they claimed, rather > dynamic. I was puzzled as I know what lies inside, the sorts > of lines on stone that everyone seems to have, whether they've been > meditating their whole lives or not. I suspect it's all a matter > of relativity, I was yet to be institutionalised and learn what to > say and talk about like the rather more brainwashed of the long > term staff. > > The clincher came when a friend sent me a list of signs of > spiritual awakening. You know the sort of thing, they get > posted around facebook infinitely and contains stuff like: > > An increased tendency to let things happen rather than > make them happen. > > Frequent attacks of smiling. > > A tendency to think and act spontaneously rather than > from fears based on past experience. > > A loss of ability to worry. > > A loss of interest in judging others. > > Gaining the ability to love without expecting anything. > > Feelins of being connected with others and nature. > > All very laudable I'm sure you'll agree, trouble for me > was the person who sent it is one of the most pent up, frustrated, > angry, aggressive, comtrolling people I have ever met. And yet > will go on endlessly about spiritual matters and enlightenment > without every displaying the sort of self awareness that I would > have said is one of the first steps in self improvement. > > Is everyone kidding themselves do you think? How many were > totally honest when they did Robin's quiz? If my superficially charming > friend did it I'm sure they would get top marks, but > anyone who gets really close knows otherwise. But then in the > TMO I'd often heard it said that you can't tell if someone is enlightened by > the way they act. Sounds like a feeble get out > clause to me. > > I've had periods of obvious unity (and all the others) but > it didn't last and many years later I wonder what the fuss was > all about, it isn't like you get any actual knowledge no matter > what people tell you. I suspect it's all a type of controlled > psychotic break, rare and self inflicted, but an adjustment of > normal perception and not anything connected with any deeper, > "cosmic" agency. No new wisdom to be had, no support of nature > (whatever that might actually mean). > > I can justify that I think. I've certainly not seen anything > to contradict it. >
