> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Jason" <jedi_spock@> wrote: > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > Am I oblivious to the truth? Atleast tell me what the > > > > > > 'truth' is for whatever it's worth. > > > > > > > > > > --- "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Sorry, couldn't resist.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Jason" <jedi_spock@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Why not? Is this your subjective or objective judgement? > > > > > > > > > > --- "Robin Carlsen" <maskedzebra@> wrote: > > > > > > ROBIN: Did you read my two posts to you today, Jason? If you had, that > > > should give you pause before you choose to write something that comes > > > this easily--and doesn't indicate you even know how to go towards what is > > > the truth. The truth here being: Is authfriend right? or did she misjudge > > > you? > > > > > > That is the question she was posing to you. In order to have something > > > meaningful to say you have to enter into her indictment of you, and > > > discover, for yourself, whether it is true or not. In typical Jason > > > fashion you did anything but this. You refused to take seriously the > > > possibility that it might be true. That is, objectively true. > > > > > > To have the satisfaction of knowing it is NOT true, you must within > > > yourself find some experience, some evidence on the record, which would > > > refute this judgment of authfriend. And if you do have some experience of > > > truth about yourself, and evidence in your posts, which exonerates you > > > from this charge, then you can express this experience, present this > > > evidence, Jason, and the reader will be able to make some determination > > > as to which judgment is the truer one, authfriend's or yours. > > > > > > But certainly so far, given what you say here, authfriend has rendered an > > > objective judgment. Because if you could handle the truth you would seek > > > out the sources within yourself which would enable you to know whether > > > authfriend was right or she was wrong. > > > Do you follow this, Jason? It is necessary that you understand me, first > > > of all to weigh whether what I have said here is pertinent to your > > > question to authfriend; second, to be able to face authfriend directly > > > and either acknowledge the painful truth of what she has said--or to > > > effectually rebut her. > > > > > > > --- "Jason" <jedi_spock@> wrote: > > > > You said that you disavow any love for him. But all that you > > said in the past months seems to have lot of emotions. This > > is where you and others differ in the outlook. > > > > The others when they look back down the 'memory lane' or > > 'history lane' never expresssed such sugary sentiments. > > > > --- "Robin Carlsen" <maskedzebra@...> wrote: > > ROBIN: You have nailed it, Jason. Authfriend has made a miscalculation: it is > not that you can't *handle* the truth; you blithely remain ignorant that it > is even around. I would like to see you *not* handling the truth. That would > be something rather refreshing. > > Barry wrote about the abnormality of this kind of love [love of Maharishi]. I > answered him in detail. And that post renders what you say here irrelevant. > The toothache response, remember? > > Your confidence in your own point of view, Jason, can be partly explained--or > so I conclude from your posts of today--by how deep you are willing to go > into some phenomenon, in order to understand it, see it, experience. That is, > as it really is. > > Life is going to have to surprise you but good to alert you to what is going > on when you post, Jason. I will be incredulous if a single thing I have said > to you today is there in your understanding. > > I will give you a simple thing to think about: The sense of the personally > tragic in the hidden interior life of Bevan Morris. >
Well, never met Bevan but I do know that he is basicaly a vedic bureaucrat. > Have you ever found that suffering yielded up a truth to you, Jason, about > yourself, about life, which could be delivered in no other way than through > your having suffered? > I think if one suffers for the sake of the truth, yes. "ye shall seek the truth and the truth shall set you free". > Another simple thing to think about. > > Each person is a universe unto themselves. Life is a mysterious experience. I > am sure death is too. You are inside something awesome and unbelievable, > Jason: the universe. > > I will pray that somehow you end up actually handling the truth. But first of > all you have to know that it is somewhere nearby. > > Effortlessness is not the required technique here, Jason. > > I was thinking today who Maharishi might be as just a person had he somehow > found a way to become de-enlghtened--as I have claim I have. I would like to > meet that person. There is nothing like being in Unity Consciousness for ten > years and then eventually not being in Unity Consciousness. I would not miss > out on this experience. It made me. > I don't think there is a consenus on this if Maharishi was ever enlightened. > You can't put your life inside a teacup, Jason. > > > > >
