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From: khazana108 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 7:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Spiritual Question For Wednesday
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@...> wrote:
>
> <snip>"may I suggest a little experiment? Just sign in with a different yahoo
> ID, and profess to be at one with Barry or the other crew. Profess to be
> critical of TM and/ or Robin, and see what happens. I promise you, this is
> the only way to find out."
>
> Khazana: Â Just to make an obvious point, "signing in" with a new name and
> starting fresh, after having spent some time here, is mostly a waste of time.
I can see, why you see it that way. But it is also a challenge. It just says,
in other words, that you rely on the appreciation of other posters, that you
have built up, instead of the actual content of your posts.
Em: I am misunderstanding you here. "Who" relies on the appreciation of other
posters? I stand on the content of my posts, not on the "appreciation" of
other posters. Even if my content is limited to off-the-cuff remarks or
passing perceptions. This isn't why I said it was a "waste of time."
> In all the cases I've seen here, one's writing style "outs" oneself before
> much time has passed, as well as one's biases, opinions, knowledge base, etc.
That's true, but then you would -at least prentend -to have a different bias,
set of opinions etc. As an American it would be more easy to 'fake' your style.
As non native English speaking, typical mistakes would be the give away.
Em: Yes, one could "pretend" to be someone one wasn't - American or not.
Trying on a different personality just for fun - stepping into the reality of
those with a different value system than the one I have. I could try and fake
being a male chauvinist, for example, and might be able to pull that off, but
in the end, the way I communicate using the written language would out me
regardless - my style is more than my grammar. I make grammatical mistakes all
the time. I would get comments based on my content, first. I could come from
the position that the women on FFL are "pathetic", etc. and Judy is simply "out
to get" anyone who doesn't agree with her. *HOWEVER*, given that she always
looks at the "content" of the posts, it is a no-brainer that if she objected to
what I was writing, she would disagree, regardless of whether I was a loved one
or not. Recently, I objected to Mike's insinuating raunchy should get
"legitimately raped."
I don't know Mike and didn't base my comment on any personal dislike of him;
I based it on the words that crossed the page. He went on to explain the
context and reasoning for what he posted.
> It is possible of course, but would take a skilled, concerted and constant
> effort on the part of the poster to maintain his/her new identity over time
> if a regular participant. Â Particularly if one wrote anything "personal."
You would have to avoid it, if you don't want to fake it.
> An example of late is Dr. Dumbass. Â I would never have known he had a prior
> name here, but apparently he did and some figured it out.Â
The people who figured this out, Barry I suppose, had long on going
controversies with him, the style of his posts was actually very similar to his
older posts, and especially the content was - that's almost the most easy
give-away.
> I have a situation currently where my FFL name has been discovered by a
> family member. Â I am considering closing Emily down as I am not interested
> in explaining why I'm here or what I write and I don't like to be tracked,
> particularly by anyone in my family, who could use the information I've
> written here to create harm for me. I am weighing this against an idea that
> perhaps I just say "yeah, and so fuckin' what." Â Also, if I am being
> tracked, if I were to change names at this point, it would be pretty easy to
> figure out who I am in my next incarnation, just like with you. Â
>
Yes, but this would be true for people who post here regularly, and have been
in interactions with you. Some of them are simply good at figuring out. But you
can adopt a different screen name, and you are simply out of the search
engines. Unless your relatives read FFL regularly, and especially if you let
some time pass, wouldn't really follow all of FFL traffic for any considerable
length of time. So, once you wait, take a different screen name with a
different email, or hide your email, they are unlikely to find out. And no, I
also wouldn't like to be tracked down.
Em: Yes, this is what I am considering.
> Also, IMO, most people come to conclusions about a poster for a reason. Â I
> almost always look for the individual merit in a post, subjectively or
> objectively. Â It isn't a "for or against" scenario; it isn't a "with us or
> against us" mentality. Â It's so demeaning to dismiss people by shuffling
> them into "camps" and defining their reality for them. Â
>
What you say above, could have been my words for many years here. I never liked
to be in one camp, and said so many times. You could say that I started out in
one camp, always trying to be independent, which let to drifting slowly away
from that camp, just to find myself on the opposite side. (I am not REALLY on
the opposite side) I embrace this situation fully. And it certainly helped me
to open my eyes, because you really have to experience this. If I am honest, I
always wanted to know it, and ultimately I must be grateful to Robin, as he was
the reason this falling out came to be. I think it was necessary and had to be.
Some dirt is created, but after that the area is cleaned up. Just like with the
jackhammer in India.
Em: Well, I experienced the "camp" mentality recently as well, and it did open
my eyes to a different dynamic on FFL, although I'm back to my "independent"
approach.
> ________________________________
> From: khazana108 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 6:44 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Spiritual Question For Wednesday
>
>
> Â
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater <no_reply@> wrote:
>
> > > Trying to recruit me, are you, Zebra Boy? Think I was born
> > > yesterday? Think I fell off a turnip truck? Well, I'm not
> > > so green as I am grassy-looking, so back off, buster.
>
> Well authorfiend is certainly not green. Due to the hints of the Willytexter,
> I stumbled upon this dialoque between her and Barry (Shoki) and quite
> honestly, you you tell any difference between the tone now and then? This is
> 1995, but you could post this same post today on FFL with just changing the
> names a little bit - to suit the present environment, and nobody would really
> notice the difference.
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.meditation.transcendental/browse_thread/thread/35b5ad0cd70ee2d8/6e533bbfc2e53e3d
> http://tinyurl.com/9r8985j
>
> > OK, well maybe we don't see it here but I do believe it is in there
> > somewhere - that nurturing, softer side.
>
> You may well be the recipient of this softer, nurturing side at times Ann,
> but to be the recipient of her other side, may I suggest a little experiment?
> Just sign in with a different yahoo ID, and profess to be at one with Barry
> or the other crew. Profess to be critical of TM and/ or Robin, and see what
> happens. I promise you, this is the only way to find out.
>
