[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: The Science of Compassion, for Wednesday

[emilymae.reyn]

<snip. "Again I don't understand why I've escaped harsher reprimands."

This pretty much says it all.  Excuse me?  

Buck, in addition to the 3 gov level recommendations, do they solicit anonymous 
"peer review" to weigh in?   



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote:
>
> Well, it is unfortunate that the Rajas put themselves in this position of 
> interrogating folks against these un-published guidelines of theirs.  This is 
> a really good example.  Instead of just asking that people only practice TM 
> and the TM-sidhis in the Domes and not practice other spiritual techniques 
> this person, someone who we all know in the community, is there standing in 
> line with folks waiting for coffee downtown telling of being creep-ed out and 
> Of the visceral fear it triggered in a feeling of how invasive the interview 
> conversation was in the amount and detail of personal information they had 
> gathered about this person and were asking about.    
> 
> Next step for the person is to git three 'recommendations' from governors.  
> That means again going through this experience of applying for a badge and 
> the feeling of being creep-ed out by how invasive it was with three or more 
> people to get recommendations.  They likely tell three others each about this 
> person's experience of being creep-ed out.  Those each tell three more.  This 
> is really not good in a community.  It is just a bad position for the 
> TM-rajas to be in building dossiers around the guidelines and the Dome 
> numbers and interrogating people.  
> 
> In the long TM history around this thing with other saints where Maharishi 
> clearly said a lot of different things about visiting saints to a lot of 
> different people at different times, the Rajas should drop to being a lot 
> simpler just in asking people to come and help by being practitioners of this 
> again.  There are really very few TM-virgins around but a lot of people who 
> could come and meditate.  The gross numbers of people meditating in the Domes 
> are really quite paltry; however, the Rajas might want to quickly think again 
> about change and re-introducing a second element to this particular problem 
> even before their Nov 6 'election' campaign to increase the Dome numbers goes 
> too far towards re-soliciting people back.  The Rajas need to work more at 
> reconciliation with their community rather than just hoping that people might 
> be nice and come back.  Yes, time is of an essence and it is certainly within 
> the authority, power and responsibility of the TM-Rajas to improve on things 
> like this.  The ball is in their court to serve.
> -Buck     
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> >
> > Khazana I wouldn't say I'm fine with the system as it is since it seems to 
> > be so hard on other people.  However, I have to also take into account my 
> > own experience.  I wasn't questioned at all when I returned to the Dome 
> > after a 7 year absence.  Though I had been to Amma several times and had 
> > been participating in Waking Down on a weekly basis right here in FF.  
> > Maybe I wasn't questioned because I'm not a gov.  I don't know and I feel 
> > for the people who are given such a rough time about it all.  
> > 
> > 
> > OTOH, I too have been interviewed by Movement leaders and have had 
> > conflicts with them.  Again I don't understand why I've escaped harsher 
> > reprimands.  But I'll give an example.  Years ago, after the end of a 
> > relationship, tantric teacher David Deida happened to come to town.  Right 
> > away I knew I wanted to attend.  I was an MUM grad student at the time.  
> > I was open about my participation in Deida's workshop.  But perhaps more 
> > importantly I felt right about it.  True, I was scared of possible 
> > consequences.  But I was willing to take that chance because I felt I was 
> > doing what was right for me and my life.  Also important, inside I 
> > acknowledged that I might be wrong.  I was not 100% sure that I was acting 
> > rightly.  But again, I was willing to take a chance that I was.  
> > 
> > 
> > That feeling of rightness, even when not 100% sure, even when afraid of 
> > possible consequences, is a grace and I do believe it is what has protected 
> > me all these decades on a spiritual path.  I am deeply grateful for this 
> > grace.
> > 
> > PS  Yahoo has been acting wonky the last few days.  Posts get to the 
> > archives right away and I read there to stay current.  Posts to my inbox 
> > can arrive many hours after they were posted.  Even my own!  
> > 
> > 
> > Remembering that Maharishi said, "What we have no control over we take to 
> > be the will of God."      
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: khazana108 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 6:14 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: The Science of Compassion, for Wednesday
> >  
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, one would hope if you were interested in meditating with the large 
> > > > group that they would issue you a badge.  That in itself is still a 
> > > > problem to surmount just coming in. I spoke with someone yesterday in 
> > > > line waiting for coffee, an old meditator here who just re-applied and 
> > > > still waiting to get a Dome badge and was appalled at the dossier that 
> > > > was compiled and questioning by the course office of private 
> > > > information they had gathered about concerts gone to and saints 
> > > > visited.  Was really creep-ed out by the interview.   However the air 
> > > > quality in the Domes is a lot better than before.  They have been 
> > > > working at that.  I am told tha smaller rooms around like out in 
> > > > Maharishi Vedic City have real nice air quality. I do notice the 
> > > > formaldehyde taint is not as great in some places around the dome 
> > > > depending on the flow of fresh air mix by the air handling system. 
> > > > Overall it is noticeably better. 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > The TMO collects information on you? 
> > 
> > They definitely do this. The national course offices know exactly which TM 
> > teacher went to another organization or has been with another saint and so 
> > on. Basically according to all  criteria they have for giving admission to 
> > courses, they will collect information. On that depends if you will get a 
> > batch or admission to any kind of course.
> > 
> > > Why do you want to even
> > > be in the dome if this is the sort of treatment you get in
> > > a so called "coherent" atmosphere. Don't you think it's gone
> > > wrong, the AofE course office shouldn't be like the east German
> > > Stazi should it? Maybe you want to amend your unified field 
> > > poems a bit.....
> > 
> > This will always remain an individual decision. I have friends who are very 
> > much in the center of the movement, and who struggle with these policies, 
> > mostly by keeping their mouths shut. You have to think about to whom of 
> > your friends you tell what. And this is then really like it was in East 
> > Germany with the Stasi, I have a brother, who grew up in this system and 
> > told me how it was. He said that it leads to a kind of a double mind, where 
> > you behave like an obedient GDR citizen OTOH and and with some close 
> > friends, whose opinion you happen to know, you rant about the system.
> > 
> > And yet, there are people like Share, who are just fine with the system 
> > like it is, who don't seem to have any points of conflict with the 
> > movement, and for them it is just fine. You could say that the movement 
> > serves them well, until any of these conflicts arise.
> > 
> > For me it is like it is with you: I wouldn't like to be in such a situation 
> > again, I prefer my freedom, and I am happy that in my present spiritual 
> > environment, there is not at all a problem with that.
> > 
> > The only problem I see for the movement with these policies is that they 
> > will slowly alienate an increasing number of people. But in the end of the 
> > day, everybody has to determine the life style that works best for him, one 
> > has to cut out the piece of the cake in a way that works best for oneself, 
> > and not think of the rest.
> > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sometimes there are extenuating circumstances. I quit going
> > > > > to the Dome when I was on staff due to a really serious allergy to
> > > > > formaldehyde, which in those days at least was a major component in 
> > > > > making foam. 
> > > > > The longer I was in the Dome, the worse I felt. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > So I stopped
> > > > > going. I did program by myself in my pod room and felt great both in 
> > > > > and out of
> > > > > program. As twice a day in the Dome was part of the staff program, I 
> > > > > was called
> > > > > in to the Personnel Director’s office (Bill Sands) and he gave 
> > > > > me a serious
> > > > > talk and threatened me with dismissal if I didn’t start toeing 
> > > > > the line.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I told him about the allergy and he said it didn’t matter,
> > > > > rules were rules. I showed him the letter I had from my allergy 
> > > > > doctor (Allen
> > > > > Lieberman in Charleston SC) saying that I had to avoid formaldehyde 
> > > > > exposure. Bill
> > > > > said it still didn’t matter. Rules were rules. No exceptions. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > So I returned to the Dome and after a couple days started
> > > > > feeling like crap again. So I thought about things and decided to 
> > > > > write a
> > > > > letter to then TM Sidhi Administrator Greg Wilson and told him my 
> > > > > story and
> > > > > sent him a copy of the letter from my allergy doctor. 
> > > > > A
> > > > > nd a couple weeks later to my surprise he wrote me a letter
> > > > > back giving me permission to do program in my room, tho he suggested 
> > > > > that I
> > > > > might consider serving MIU in some other capacity since Dome 
> > > > > attendance was
> > > > > part of staff program. So I quit going to the Dome again. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > A couple weeks went by and I was called into Bill Sands office
> > > > > again, with my letters in my pocket. After he gave me hell and pretty 
> > > > > much told
> > > > > me my time at MIU was over, I told him I had permission from Greg 
> > > > > Wilson and
> > > > > showed him my letter, or rather a copy of it, I wisely had the 
> > > > > original in my
> > > > > room. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bill was completely discombobulated and hemmed and hawed and
> > > > > puffed and blustered but had to back down, but he didn’t like 
> > > > > it. So I went
> > > > > back to doing program in my room and had great experiences and was 
> > > > > much more
> > > > > effective in activity for about eight months until Bill found a way 
> > > > > to get rid
> > > > > of me.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > >  From: Buck 
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 12:52 PM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: The Science of Compassion, for 
> > > > > Wednesday
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   
> > > > > This being Compassionate Posting Wednesday on FFL where ne'er a 
> > > > > negative word is written, I am not going to go on at all about just 
> > > > > how stoopid and undeserving it is that meditators who even live in 
> > > > > Fairfield do not come to the group meditation.  No, I'll save that 
> > > > > for tomorrow and then may be also consider the fallen away and 
> > > > > outright meditation quitters out in the world too; all those who have 
> > > > > fell off the meditation wagon and even walked away entirely.  I am 
> > > > > excercising a lot of compassion for them all right now today, 
> > > > > -Buck in the Dome 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
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> > > > > > Subject: The Science of Compassion
> > > > > > 
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> > > > > >   Have compassion for everyone you meet, even if they don't want 
> > > > > > it. What appears bad manners, an ill temper or cynicism is always a 
> > > > > > sign of things no ears have heard, no eyes have seen. You do not 
> > > > > > know what wars are going on down there where the spirit meets the 
> > > > > > bone.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > - Miller Williams - 
> > > > > > The Science of Compassion
> > > > > > "As human beings, we will inevitably encounter suffering at some 
> > > > > > point in our lives. However, we also have evolved very specific 
> > > > > > social mechanisms to relieve that pain: altruism and compassion. It 
> > > > > > is not just receiving compassion that relieves our pain...The act 
> > > > > > of experiencing compassion and helping others actually leads to 
> > > > > > tremendous mental and physical well-being for us as well. It is our 
> > > > > > ability to stand together as a group, to support each other, to 
> > > > > > help each other, to communicate for mutual understanding, and to 
> > > > > > cooperate, that has taken our species this far." Dr. James R. Doty, 
> > > > > > the Director of the Center for Compassion and Altruism Research and 
> > > > > > Education at Stanford University, describes the scientific 
> > > > > > underpinnings of compassion in this piece. { read more }
> > > > > > Be The Change
> > > > > > As Dr. Doty writes, "Compassion is the recognition of another's 
> > > > > > suffering and a desire to alleviate that suffering." Recognize 
> > > > > > somebody's sadness, isolation, or suffering and try to connect with 
> > > > > > them. { more } 
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