--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <feste37@> wrote: > > > > My feeling about "living in the moment" is that it's not > > all that it's cracked up to be. It is a New Age cliche > > and refers to something for which human beings are not > > designed. We live simultaneously in past, present, and > > future. That's our nature. It is a quintessential human > > act to think back to the past, and constantly interpret > > and reinterpret it for ourselves, and we also are wired > > to spend a lot of time envisaging the future, for better > > or worse. My cat can do neither of those things. He is > > pretty good at living in the moment, but I have no desire > > to emulate him. > > Well said, but the issue to me seems to revolve more > around which species have the ability to *not* submit > to the pressures of past, present, and future when > dealing with present events, not the tendency to do so. > > That issue brings up the issue of free will, and of > being capable of influencing one's passage through > time and space. Is one a "prisoner" of one's previous > passages through time and space, or merely influenced > by them? > > I'm going to go for the latter. The samskaras are > present, *in* the present. The compulsion to submit > to them and keep doing the same old same old is not. > > Not for human beings, anyway. I can't speak for your > cat. :-)
I would like to think you are right, but I can't say that I feel free of those old ghosts that loiter in the psyche. I tend to agree with Faulkner, "The past is never dead. It is not even past." > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@> wrote: > > > > > > Goodness Ann, you are hysterically funny.  I am creepily connected to > > > you.  "If I were a man, I'd want to be me."  Ahh ha ha ha ha ha. > > >  Those lines were priceless.  I did look up Camille Claudel.  I > > > wouldn't want to be her - poor woman - her mother refused to let her out > > > of the asylum. > > > > > > O.K.  Now I will go for the day (promise - I feel so guilty for posting > > > so much) and come back to listen.  I have to look up Robin's past posts > > > on "grace."  My memory sucks with all this living in the moment crap. > > >  Maybe I'll use the advanced search on that.  And I want to find those > > > pictures of penguins to show Share how supportive I feel towards her in > > > Reality.  Love ya, Ann.  Sincerely, Emily. > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > From: awoelflebater <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > > > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > >Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:12 AM > > > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,"really stupid" or "reeely > > > >stooopid" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" <maskedzebra@> > > > >wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater <no_reply@> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> > > > >> > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > dear FFL, just to set the record straight:àI don't even THINK > > > >> > > the word imbecile much less express it.àEmily recently asked a > > > >> > > question about TM and I followed up with a similar question to > > > >> > > Steve.àNot sure how my asking a question of Steve is saying > > > >> > > anything at all about Emily.àAnd it's true that I ONCE called > > > >> > > Emily's sense of humor creepy.àShe is the person who is > > > >> > > multiplying it.à> > > >> > > > > > >> > > In this post of hers it is the indirectly attributing to me > > > >> > > something I did not say or even think, that is what I'd call > > > >> > > creepy here. > > > >> > > > > >> > Why this sudden animosity towards Emily? Steve and her can be > > > >> > friends too, you know. > > > >> > > > >> And why don't you just leave this be, Ann? I feel *your* animosity > > > >> here. > > > > > > > >Yes, and I am ashamed and abject, right here and right in the 'now'. > > > >There is no escaping the 'fact' of my unwarranted attack on the one who > > > >is already persecuted mercilessly here. You were right in pointing this > > > >out, what else could you have done given your propensity for finding the > > > >truth and reality in all things? Please, please accept my most profound > > > >offering which is in the form of my regret in this matter. It won't > > > >happen again (well, maybe can I exempt Barry from this promise?). > > > > > > > >>There is someone who is being persecuted. Emily is only getting what > > > >>she deserves. > > > > > > > >I know this now and stand humbly corrected. Emily you ARE a creep and > > > >creepy to boot. > > > > > > > >>If I were a woman I would want to be Camille Claudel. > > > > > > > >And if Share were a man she wants to be Steve. If I were a man I'd want > > > >to be me. > > > > > > > >>Ravi was referring to Prince Myshkin--where Dostoyevsky's intent was to > > > >>create a character "entirely positive...with an absolutely beautiful > > > >>nature". I hope this once, the object of your gratuitous hatred can > > > >>resist the temptation to take it to you, Ann--because if she does this > > > >>once more--and you don't realize how ignominiously defeated you are, I > > > >>will have to send you (this time) into a virtual exile. > > > > > > > >Just try it, buster. But I agree, I will keep my head down because the > > > >fury of the onslaught could come from anywhere and I may not be up to > > > >the task of surviving. There are more than a few white knights here on > > > >this forum. > > > > > > > >> I am trying to do some good around here, Ann: please learn to whisper > > > >> more wisely to these other horses. > > > > > > > >I'm doin' my best but sometimes those 'heehaws' just burst out of me and > > > >I'm just not sure where they come from. I could be the neuroplasticity > > > >talking but something tells me it's the devil in me. I think you may > > > >have been right about that. > > > >> > > > >> > > BTW how I remember this sequence:àlines on stone, lines on > > > >> > > sand, lines on water, lines on air.à> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > ________________________________ > > > >> > > From: Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@> > > > >> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" > > > >> > > <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > > > >> > > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:45 PM > > > >> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,"really stupid" > > > >> > > or "reeely stooopid" > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > à> > > >> > > Steve: àI was being sincere - you really have been laying down > > > >> > > some funny stuff, IMO. àYou are never the butt of my joke. > > > >> > > àI almost always laugh in the spirit of the moment and never > > > >> > > with mean intention - and I'm quite serious about that. àI > > > >> > > laugh at the human condition and our attempts to communicate with > > > >> > > each other and I do it so that I don't grieve too hard when things > > > >> > > are tough. àI should really get a volunteer position as I've > > > >> > > already filled out the application - I just have to make the call. > > > >> > > à> > > >> > > > > > >> > > I don't always explain the way I interpret FFL and I probably > > > >> > > won't. àI run it through a lot of different filters some days. > > > >> > > àWhich means that I "misinterpret" at times on purpose for a > > > >> > > different effect - easy to do with words on paper. And it is well > > > >> > > known now, thanks to Share, that I have a "creepy" sense of humor. > > > >> > > àAnd I am a TM imbecile. à> > > >> > > > > > >> > > And I wasn't feeling particularly up today, if truth be told, so I > > > >> > > really appreciated your posts. àAnd, I love a good beer. > > > >> > > àHad to give it up when I was diagnosed as gluten intolerant, > > > >> > > but I'm going to cheat after what Emptybill posted today. à> > > >> > > Emily > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >________________________________ > > > >> > > > From: seventhray27 <steve.sundur@> > > > >> > > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > >> > > >Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 6:04 PM > > > >> > > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,"really stupid" or > > > >> > > >"reeely stooopid" > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >à> > > >> > > >whether Emily was being sincere or making fun of me, I really > > > >> > > >don't care.àIf I can be the butt of her joke, so be it. > > > >> > > >(and yes, I need to check out the link) > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" > > > >> > > ><maskedzebra@> wrote: > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> If you ever figure out why Emily is laughing, Steve, you'll be > > > >> > > >> where Ted wrote about sex with Sylvia. > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ > > > >> > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > Ahh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....ahhhhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha > > > >> > > >> > ah....ahhhhhhhhh ha ha ha ha ha. Steve, I don't know what is > > > >> > > >> > up for you, but you are really making me laugh these days. > > > >> > > >> > ÃâàAhhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha....... > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > >________________________________ > > > >> > > >> > > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@ > > > >> > > >> > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > >> > > >> > >Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 2:18 PM > > > >> > > >> > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,"really > > > >> > > >> > >stupid" or "reeely stooopid" > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >Ãâà> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen" > > > >> > > >> > ><maskedzebra@> wrote: > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" > > > >> > > >> > >> steve.sundur@ wrote: > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > >> > >> You always read me perfectly, Steve, and I am loving it. > > > >> > > >> > >> And you have been more merciful than most here--I don't > > > >> > > >> > >> like people criticizing me--but you, you say something > > > >> > > >> > >> nice when you do this (put me in a better place). And > > > >> > > >> > >> believe me, Steve: this makes all the difference. > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> I am trying to 'get' your philosophy; I think you are > > > >> > > >> > >> trying to teach it to me indirectly--through anecdotes > > > >> > > >> > >> like the ones in this post. I think this an efficacious > > > >> > > >> > >> way to get your wisdom to go right into me, Steve. > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> I will let you know (through my deeds) the progress I am > > > >> > > making. Don't ever give up on me. I need your help--AND your love. > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >ÃâàMake a daily journal. ÃâàWe'll call it > > > >> > > >> > >"Robin's Daily Journal". ÃâàMake a list of the things > > > >> > > >> > >you hope to accomplish in a given day, and maybe some > > > >> > > >> > >personality traits to which you want to pay a little closer > > > >> > > >> > >attention. ÃâàAnd then at the end of the day, you can > > > >> > > >> > >write about how you feel you did. Ãâà> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >For example, "Was I tooÃâàaggressiveÃâàapplying > > > >> > > >> > >my First Person Ontology test to those I interacted with?" > > > >> > > >> > >ÃâàOr, "Was my ironyÃâàappropriate, or > > > >> > > >> > >insincere". ÃâàThese might be some areas to consider. > > > >> > > >> > >ÃâàI really don't know. ÃâàI am just throwing > > > >> > > >> > >them out for suggestions. Ãâà> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >We're here for you Robin. We can get through this. > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > >> We are good now, I think, > > > >> > > Steve. > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> Robin > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
