--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater <no_reply@...> wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, we in Fairfield are spared the brunt of this particular
> > > storm coming
> 
> Show me some weather forecast that proves this colossal storm
> is coming. Any weather forecast I looked at for Iowa in the
> time frame you mentioned is nowhere to be seen.

Here you go:

http://www.weather.com/weather/right-now/USIA0291:1

> > > but at the edge we will be getting some needed moisture before
> > > the ground really freezes. Om, and No frost in the ground this 
> > > late?
> > > 
> > > Usual is frost in the ground from Dec 1st to Feb 1st.   The 
> > > last few years it is only in the ground a couple weeks and
> > > goes out.  That is abnormal.  That frost needs sits in the 
> > > ground as a mechanism of tilth lifting and breaking up the
> > > soil structures, killing pests.  Last summer stockmen
> > > locally were troubled with virus that gets transmitted via
> > > nats that showed up after these mild winters.  It's a 
> > > hemorrhagic disease similar to Ebola that effects internal 
> > > organs, particularly ruminant species like sheep, cattle, 
> > > goats, and deer. 
> 
> I can find nothing about this anywhere. Please include some
> link that can tell me more about this virus that is spread 
> via the nat (do you mean gnat?).

This is probably it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetongue_disease

The insect vector is midges (which are also sometimes called
gnats). Note the section titled "Overwintering."
 
> > Yikes I had no idea.
> 
> Not so fast, let's not take Buck's word for it, why not see if
> there is any verification anywhere of any of this. So far, I 
> can find nothing.
> > 
> > > The bad deal with Ebola of course is that it is transmitted
> > > as a respiratory disease that can jump species.  This local 
> > > hemorrhagic virus goes by a category of biting
> > > insect that comes out in abnormally hot dry summers.
> 
> Hmmmmmm. Here is one thing I found:

I assume you're quoting the material about Ebola because it
says nothing about respiratory transmission; but there is
this from Wikipedia:

"The [Ebola] virus has been confirmed to be transmitted through body fluids. 
Transmission through oral exposure and through conjunctiva exposure is 
likely[42] and has been confirmed in non-human primates.[43] Filoviruses are 
not naturally transmitted by aerosol. They are, however, highly infectious as 
breathable 0.8–1.2 micrometre droplets in laboratory conditions;[44] because of 
this potential route of infection, these viruses have been classified as 
Category A biological weapons.[45]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebola_virus_disease

Ebola is a completely different disease from bluetongue in any
case; the similarity is in its hemorrhagic effects.


> Transmission of Ebola
> Transmission of Ebola can occur through exposure to blood or bodily 
> secretions of an infected person, or through direct contact with the person. 
> During outbreaks of the Ebola virus, transmission of the virus in hospitals 
> is very common, especially when patients are cared for without the use of 
> proper barrier techniques and sterilization practices. One subtype of Ebola 
> was reported in a primate research facility in Virginia, where it appears 
> that transmission of Ebola from monkey to monkey occurred through the air; 
> however, such transmission has not been seen among humans.
> Transmission of Ebola: An Overview
> Transmission of Ebola occurs through direct contact with an infected person 
> or his or her body fluids (such as blood or secretions). Transmission of 
> Ebola occurs most often during the late stages of an Ebola infection.
>  
> Transmission of Ebola: Direct Contact With an Infected Person
> One way that transmission of Ebola can occur is through direct contact with 
> an infected person. This most often occurs at a burial ceremony where 
> mourners touch recently deceased Ebola victims.
>  
> Transmission of Ebola: Exposure to Infected Body Fluids
> Another way that transmission of Ebola occurs involves direct contact with 
> the blood or secretions of an infected person. In this situation, the Ebola 
> virus often spreads to the patient's family and friends because they come in 
> close contact with such secretions when caring for the infected person. 
> People can also be exposed to Ebola virus through contact with objects, such 
> as needles, that have been contaminated with infected secretions.
>  
> > > 
> > > It's definitely around this part of Iowa.  It's the
> > > direct result of people driving their big fat ass cars
> > > and heating and cooling their big fucking houses. 
> 
> OK, big jump here in credibility.

Not really. It's a bit hyperbolic, but if lots of big cars
and air conditioners contribute to global warming, and global
warming makes for warmer temperatures in the Midwest, there
is a connection.



> I am sorry Buck but I am not sure I can officially believe one word you say.
> 
>  >>Global climate change has arrived and it ain't going
> > > back to nothing like normal until you, you and you revert to living at a
> > > base-line of a 1820's standard of living. 
> 
> Er, do you know what this actually means Buck? Give me ten things that you 
> need/require now that you think will still be available to you if you revert 
> to 1820. First you'll have to give up that tractor and pickup truck. Next, 
> tear down the Dome, that architectural style with heat and A/C wouldn't have 
> existed in Iowa. Oh, let me count the ways/things. 
> > 
> > Right you are.  I also think that cow dung and all that pig s__t spews 
> > greenhouse gases into the air bigtime.
> 
> Then I certainly hope, Susan, that you are a vegetarian and don't wear 
> leather.
> 
> > We are all in this together - we all need to change so much that it won't 
> > happen unless there is some sort of catastrophe.  Our planet is really 
> > rather small. Let's just hope some genius scientists can figure out a way 
> > to  solve this emergency.
> 
> Even if "some genius scientists" solved it no one is going to listen if it 
> involves inconvenience.
> 
>  > We should make it a global competition.  
> > 
> > 
> > First off it would help
> > > everyone if everyone would spend three hours in the morning taking a
> > > quiet time sitting in silence, a siesta after lunch and again in the
> > > afternoon a couple more hours meditating. 
> 
> Yes, very proactive. Just don't fart, it might add to the methane buildup in 
> the atmosphere along with those, you know, cows, pigs and sheep.
> 
>  Over-consumption is the
> > > problem.  We need to spend a lot more time not doing nothing
> 
> Interesting grammatically (Judy?).
> 
> > >that
> > > converts and consumes resources causing global climate change.   People
> > > spending their days in more spiritual practice is the answer.
> 
> Undoubtedly. I have to go stoke the wood stove now and get to the creek where 
> there are some great rocks for scrubbing my clothes.
> 
> > > 
> > > -Buck in the Dome
> 
> Ann on the Moon
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Buck, Share, anyone -Is there any climate change, warming, bigger
> > > > storms, droughts going on out there?  Or expected by people who
> > > believe
> > > > in such things?  And let's just not count any anticipated effect from
> > > > the pandits and the chanting for now, what about the science?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Susan,
> > > > I am born and raised Iowa.  It's Abnormally hot and dry.  Has been
> > > > growing that way for several years.  Obviously something is advancing.
> > > > I'm a farmer and all my Iowan farmer neighbors see this too.  It's a
> > > > damned big gamble putting in a crop and keeping and feeding livestock.
> > > > The hot is intensely hot, the dry is stretching out too far between
> > > > showers.  The subsoil moisture just ain't there to sustain a crop.  It
> > > > is that way stretching from the Rocky mountains clear out to New York
> > > > all across the grain belt.  Famine is extremely likely because people
> > > > have lived so high off the hog burning fossil fuels to drive their big
> > > > ass cars and heat and cool their fucking houses.  Damn city people. 
> > > Get
> > > > ready for crop failures soon.  We've just barely squeaked by these
> > > last
> > > > few growing years.  That's the truth.  Big weather events including
> > > big
> > > > heat and drought bring famine in the real world.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Global Big Weather and Weird Weather locally.  Guess what, the largest
> > > > single cell winter storm in the Mid-west in years is going to hit Iowa
> > > > on 12.21.2-12.  Coming like an inland hurricane although they can't
> > > call
> > > > it that because it would upset insurance companies.  The eye of the
> > > > storm will move well to the North of us here in Fairfield.  That's
> > > > invincibility from all the consciousness here.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now If you don't buy that you should listen to a scientist discussing
> > > > the powerful influence of consciousness on our environment.  Take a
> > > > listen in a science lesson of modern science.  Modern science and the
> > > > primordial influence of consciousness.  This is what we farm here in
> > > > Fairfield.  It's damned hard farming given all the inertia of dullness
> > > > out there in the surrounding world of humanity creating such woe and
> > > > tarnation otherwise.
> > > > http://www.nationalyagya.org/videos.html#video=JmxsedesX60
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's a good lesson in science that everyone should study,
> > > >
> > > > -Buck, out standing in his fields
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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