I saw a TV show last night about the Spirituali movement in 15th century Italy. In parallel to the outside Protestant movement, It was an attempt by forces *within* the Catholic Church to both spread the word that intercession isn't necessary between humans and God, and bring an end to the corruption within the institution. Michelangelo was caught in the middle of it, and some of his commissioned art reflects this.
Spoiler Alert: The Spirituali lost. The status quo Cardinal provided evidence to The Inquisition, which he had revived, that the Cardinal backing the Spirituali had distributed copies of the Bible in Italian, vs. Latin, and to *non-clergy* - a serious crime. The good guy "repented", fled to England, despite ongoing attempts by the Vatican to have him extradited back to Rome, for "a friendly chat". So the idea that humans have a direct link to God has been absent from any western tradition, because of this. Maharishi revived this idea, and ability, in the West. He discovered through his own inquiry, that it is the Evening of Kali Yuga, a time when suffering increases for humanity, leading to the darkest night. He discovered that the darkness is maintained by Mother Divine to maintain the cosmic cycle of time. Rather than have the Divine Mother remove the engines of negativity from the atmosphere, he discovered that each of us is either a polluter, or purifier, of the atmosphere. Through spreading the technique which removes any intermediaries between us and the forces of life and death, he has made it possible for each of us to make that choice for ourselves, what we choose to be. Although he has spoken about the descent of Heaven On Earth, he has also spoken about such a phenomenon being a localized effect, with pockets of strife continuing across the globe. I don't know whether this was a modification of his earlier proclamations. Ultimately, though, he puts the responsibility for any of this Heaven or Hell right back on each of us. Even if tomorrow magically became a paradise, most of us wouldn't notice.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@...> wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dQPgSyQ2M8&feature=youtube_gdata_player > > Sent from my iPad > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" <seekliberation@> > wrote: > > > > I was just thinking, i've spent a lot of time arguing, pointing out faults, > > and trying to correct certaing unrealistic points of view with my family > > members, friends, and even a few people on this forum regarding the > > creation of Heaven on Earth. But then I realized....perhaps we just have > > conflicting views of what Heaven on Earth is really going to be like, and > > therefore it's pointless to argue. > > > > For example, I believe that we could do a lot more to make this world more > > conducive to life, spirituality, learning, and education. But just because > > those areas have improved doesn't mean we have 'Heaven on Earth'. But that > > also depends on what concept we consider 'heaven on earth'. > > > > After my interaction with most die hard TMO TB's over the years, I am > > convinced that their conception of heaven on earth is pretty much a Disney > > movie, but with no villians. Everyone will be skipping in the fields, > > singing songs like in the 'sound of music' and holding hands together. No > > one will have to work (at least not hard), no more weapons, no one will > > ever get hurt, we will all live longer, no one will get sick (very rarely > > at least), and basically, every single experience in life that is difficult > > or challenging will go away. It will become a thing of the past. > > Difficulties, challenges, strife, and personal conflict will be over. > > > > I simply wonder sometimes if the TMO has ever really explained what they > > really mean by Heaven on Earth? Do they really advertise that there will > > be no war, no violence some day? No more theft, fraud, cheating or lying? > > All these negative qualities will just disappear? That seems to be the > > perception and that I get when discussing what HOE will be like if it > > happens. > > > > Anyone here have any experience in the TMO actually defining HOE? > > > > seekliberation > > >
