I agree.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@...> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
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> > Hi WB, I know that, also - I worked for the TM guys, on staff, for a total
> > of three years, and bought into *everything*. Everything. Well, almost
> > everything...my guardian angels stopped me literally on the verge, from
> > going on TTC - it wouldn't have been pretty.:-0
> >
> > Working for the TMO, I went on tons of residence courses, earned my TMSP -
> > read the Gita numerous times, took SCI - and earned the princely sum of
> > $25/mo., slept in an unheated garage, or a run down shack in mid-Winter
> > with no plumbing - in the Midwest and Catskills. Had all the *right*
> > posters on the walls though.:-)
> >
> > Continued TMSP for 13 years, and TM since 1975. Took part in some key TMO
> > events - attended Doug Henning's second wedding in the Dome, helped build
> > the first dome, helped build a Capital of the Age of Enlightenment.
> > Attended the Taste of Utopia course in DC.
> >
> > Got screwed in many of the same ways as have been already described here ad
> > nauseum - Experienced loss of course credit, arrogance of the Govs, blatant
> > hypocrisy, pitiful living and working conditions, though thankfully, except
> > for my overall income for those three years working for the TMO, I didn't
> > lose money on many courses.
> >
> > So, I just don't know what the standard is for investment in the TMO and
> > Maharishi, that continues to leave a bitter taste in so many mouths.
> >
> > After I left in the early 80's, I continued to pursue my own stuff, and
> > continued to carefully peel away the BS from whatever my truth was at the
> > time, and now. Got immersed in the world, family and career, so that any BS
> > in the TMO continued to burn itself out, in the course of integrating
> > myself into a normal, successful worldly life.
> >
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> I did the same as you. But, I think working for the TMO for 3 years is a lot
> less time than many people invested. Also, for many back in the 1970's, they
> were of an age when people go to grad school, or get started in a career,
> begin to set up an adult life. I know of a few people who felt very angry in
> retrospect, that they had spent their 20's and early 30's working for the
> TMO, only to find that they were without credentials or any savings by the
> time they decided Enuf. Despite this, many got on with their lives and
> made great successes of things, even if later in life. Some did not and
> would have benefitted from a more traditional life plan. I did not see tons
> of young Indians spending their 20's and 30's working for little compensation
> for the TMO. That would not have been ok with Indian parents, tradition or
> values. I think one of the problems was that the Westerners tried to have a
> foot in each camp: householder and devotee, and they often ended up without
> funds or experience to manage much in the real world as well as lost faith in
> the guru.
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> I feel really grateful for TM and all my time in it, and I was lucky enough
> to manage grad school and a career a bit later. But I still get why some
> might feel that taking a large chunk of time out of the mainstream might have
> left a mark - that they never caught up. Especially if they are disappointed
> about the results of TM itself. Then they lost on both counts.
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> > If someone still feels the need to vent about their TMO experiences, and
> > trot out the same old tired stories and accusations, they can go ahead, but
> > when they say stuff like this, they *still* sound kinda dumb: :-)
> >
> > "The TMO is in my opinion no more corrupt and awful (and no less) than any
> > other spiritual organization or religion or cult in human history."
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@> wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "The TMO is in my opinion no more corrupt and awful (and no less) than
> > > > any other spiritual organization or religion or cult in human history."
> > > >
> > > > this makes you sound kinda dumb...just sayin'...
> > >
> > > Not dumb, dear Doctor. Here is the key thing. Many people who appear the
> > > most bitter are those who spent the most time, invested much of
> > > themselves, in the Movement whether it was in in the form of years,
> > > sweat, dedication or belief. This was a cost on some level. When someone
> > > has put so much of themselves into something and found it, in the end,
> > > wanting it seems to me natural that there is disappointment, bitterness,
> > > a foundation for defining/revealing, what went wrong. It is never a valid
> > > excuse that something isn't wrong because it happens all the time.
> > > Frequency of transgression does not override the seriousness of it.
> > > >
> > <snip>
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