I shall go forth dearest Ravi but only if we can go hand in hand smiley smile (-:
________________________________ From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second Attention, Pros and Cons] "The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them." Oh dear Share - with the above statement the automated platitude detector of FFL has recorded this as your 1 millionth platitude on FFL. You are hereby declared to be the avatar of Mother Saraswati. You no longer need to visit any healers, quantum light weavers - your weaknesses have been reduced to naught in one fell swoop, you have been totally healed - no longer you are one of the billions with positives and negatives. Go forth and start your own cult O' Wise lady. On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >Doc, I appreciate what you say about astral being a reflection of >consciousness. Want to add that 2 spiritual teachers I respect a lot say that >there is a definite distinction between the celestial and astral realms. The >celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them. > > > > > > >________________________________ > From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" <doctordumb...@rocketmail.com> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:05 AM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second Attention, >Pros and Cons] > > > > >Think of it this way - the astral world, meaning all of it, parallels our >consciousness, like two thermometers, side by side, each reading the same >thing. Astral is a higher vibration than physical. The sight one gets from >practicing Patanjali's sutra, or by some other means like peyote (ick) or >mescaline (ugh) or LSD (yuck), will bring you into that world, according to >your level of consciousness at the time. > >Those that experience unpleasant entities are merely seeing the astral >manifestation of their consciousness. Astral means the entire universe of >subtle sight. Of course, once a person is familiar with the full scope of >Being in the astral world, one goes wherever one wants to - Um, kinda like in >"real" life. > >However, it is important to note what one sees with each exploration, most of >which will take a matter of seconds, popping in and out. If the consciousness >is clean, it will naturally be experiencing the Celestial world, or I suppose, >"upper astral". Also, the dynamics are just like anything else - with more >experience, one has greater discrimination, and freedom of motion. > >If the reverse is true, (and one's consciousness is full of "suspended solids" >- lol), and one forces one's way into the astral, they will probably see and >meet lower entities. Not necessarily demons and criminals, but tricksters and >manipulators. This is what is commonly called "the astral world" (by dopes >like Lenz), but is actually a subset, based on limited access. > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: >> >> Freebie from Doc: >> >> This word "astral" that you and Fred use, could be called "ass-tral" - lol, >> because those that focus on the astral world, vs. Celestial, have a low >> consciousness. >> >> Its like breaking into someone's basement, and really should be avoided for >> all the trouble it causes. The horror movie makers seem to profit, but >> that's about it. >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: >> > > >> > > Thanks for this. I've heard similar ideas from tantric >> > > teacher David Deida. Also I'm thinking that pushing it >> > > out opens one's aura to astral entities. True? >> > >> > I doubt it. I would say, and I know that Rama did >> > say, that the thing that most opens one up to astral >> > entities is spending any time whatsoever thinking >> > about astral entities. What you focus on you become. >> (schnipp) >> > > > >
