"The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them." Oh dear Share - with the above statement the automated platitude detector of FFL has recorded this as your 1 millionth platitude on FFL. You are hereby declared to be the avatar of Mother Saraswati. You no longer need to visit any healers, quantum light weavers - your weaknesses have been reduced to naught in one fell swoop, you have been totally healed - no longer you are one of the billions with positives and negatives. Go forth and start your own cult O' Wise lady.
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> wrote: > ** > > > Doc, I appreciate what you say about astral being a reflection of > consciousness. Want to add that 2 spiritual teachers I respect a lot say > that there is a definite distinction between the celestial and astral > realms. The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" <doctordumb...@rocketmail.com> > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:05 AM > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second > Attention, Pros and Cons] > > > Think of it this way - the astral world, meaning all of it, parallels our > consciousness, like two thermometers, side by side, each reading the same > thing. Astral is a higher vibration than physical. The sight one gets from > practicing Patanjali's sutra, or by some other means like peyote (ick) or > mescaline (ugh) or LSD (yuck), will bring you into that world, according to > your level of consciousness at the time. > > Those that experience unpleasant entities are merely seeing the astral > manifestation of their consciousness. Astral means the entire universe of > subtle sight. Of course, once a person is familiar with the full scope of > Being in the astral world, one goes wherever one wants to - Um, kinda like > in "real" life. > > However, it is important to note what one sees with each exploration, most > of which will take a matter of seconds, popping in and out. If the > consciousness is clean, it will naturally be experiencing the Celestial > world, or I suppose, "upper astral". Also, the dynamics are just like > anything else - with more experience, one has greater discrimination, and > freedom of motion. > > If the reverse is true, (and one's consciousness is full of "suspended > solids" - lol), and one forces one's way into the astral, they will > probably see and meet lower entities. Not necessarily demons and criminals, > but tricksters and manipulators. This is what is commonly called "the > astral world" (by dopes like Lenz), but is actually a subset, based on > limited access. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > > > Freebie from Doc: > > > > This word "astral" that you and Fred use, could be called "ass-tral" - > lol, because those that focus on the astral world, vs. Celestial, have a > low consciousness. > > > > Its like breaking into someone's basement, and really should be avoided > for all the trouble it causes. The horror movie makers seem to profit, but > that's about it. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks for this. I've heard similar ideas from tantric > > > > teacher David Deida. Also I'm thinking that pushing it > > > > out opens one's aura to astral entities. True? > > > > > > I doubt it. I would say, and I know that Rama did > > > say, that the thing that most opens one up to astral > > > entities is spending any time whatsoever thinking > > > about astral entities. What you focus on you become. > > (schnipp) > > > > > > >