"The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them."

Oh dear Share - with the above statement the automated platitude detector
of FFL has recorded this as your 1 millionth platitude on FFL. You are
hereby declared to be the avatar of Mother Saraswati. You no longer need to
visit any healers, quantum light weavers - your weaknesses have been
reduced to naught in one fell swoop, you have been totally healed - no
longer you are one of the billions with positives and negatives. Go forth
and start your own cult O' Wise lady.

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> Doc, I appreciate what you say about astral being a reflection of
> consciousness.  Want to add that 2 spiritual teachers I respect a lot say
> that there is a definite distinction between the celestial and astral
> realms.  The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them.
>
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> *From:* "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" <doctordumb...@rocketmail.com>
> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:05 AM
> *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second
> Attention, Pros and Cons]
>
>
> Think of it this way - the astral world, meaning all of it, parallels our
> consciousness, like two thermometers, side by side, each reading the same
> thing. Astral is a higher vibration than physical. The sight one gets from
> practicing Patanjali's sutra, or by some other means like peyote (ick) or
> mescaline (ugh) or LSD (yuck), will bring you into that world, according to
> your level of consciousness at the time.
>
> Those that experience unpleasant entities are merely seeing the astral
> manifestation of their consciousness. Astral means the entire universe of
> subtle sight. Of course, once a person is familiar with the full scope of
> Being in the astral world, one goes wherever one wants to - Um, kinda like
> in "real" life.
>
> However, it is important to note what one sees with each exploration, most
> of which will take a matter of seconds, popping in and out. If the
> consciousness is clean, it will naturally be experiencing the Celestial
> world, or I suppose, "upper astral". Also, the dynamics are just like
> anything else - with more experience, one has greater discrimination, and
> freedom of motion.
>
> If the reverse is true, (and one's consciousness is full of "suspended
> solids" - lol), and one forces one's way into the astral, they will
> probably see and meet lower entities. Not necessarily demons and criminals,
> but tricksters and manipulators. This is what is commonly called "the
> astral world" (by dopes like Lenz), but is actually a subset, based on
> limited access.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote:
> >
> > Freebie from Doc:
> >
> > This word "astral" that you and Fred use, could be called "ass-tral" -
> lol, because those that focus on the astral world, vs. Celestial, have a
> low consciousness.
> >
> > Its like breaking into someone's basement, and really should be avoided
> for all the trouble it causes. The horror movie makers seem to profit, but
> that's about it.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for this. I've heard similar ideas from tantric
> > > > teacher David Deida. Also I'm thinking that pushing it
> > > > out opens one's aura to astral entities. True?
> > >
> > > I doubt it. I would say, and I know that Rama did
> > > say, that the thing that most opens one up to astral
> > > entities is spending any time whatsoever thinking
> > > about astral entities. What you focus on you become.
> > (schnipp)
> >
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