Doc, I appreciate what you say about astral being a reflection of consciousness. Want to add that 2 spiritual teachers I respect a lot say that there is a definite distinction between the celestial and astral realms. The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them.
________________________________ From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" <doctordumb...@rocketmail.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second Attention, Pros and Cons] Think of it this way - the astral world, meaning all of it, parallels our consciousness, like two thermometers, side by side, each reading the same thing. Astral is a higher vibration than physical. The sight one gets from practicing Patanjali's sutra, or by some other means like peyote (ick) or mescaline (ugh) or LSD (yuck), will bring you into that world, according to your level of consciousness at the time. Those that experience unpleasant entities are merely seeing the astral manifestation of their consciousness. Astral means the entire universe of subtle sight. Of course, once a person is familiar with the full scope of Being in the astral world, one goes wherever one wants to - Um, kinda like in "real" life. However, it is important to note what one sees with each exploration, most of which will take a matter of seconds, popping in and out. If the consciousness is clean, it will naturally be experiencing the Celestial world, or I suppose, "upper astral". Also, the dynamics are just like anything else - with more experience, one has greater discrimination, and freedom of motion. If the reverse is true, (and one's consciousness is full of "suspended solids" - lol), and one forces one's way into the astral, they will probably see and meet lower entities. Not necessarily demons and criminals, but tricksters and manipulators. This is what is commonly called "the astral world" (by dopes like Lenz), but is actually a subset, based on limited access. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > Freebie from Doc: > > This word "astral" that you and Fred use, could be called "ass-tral" - lol, > because those that focus on the astral world, vs. Celestial, have a low > consciousness. > > Its like breaking into someone's basement, and really should be avoided for > all the trouble it causes. The horror movie makers seem to profit, but that's > about it. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for this. I've heard similar ideas from tantric > > > teacher David Deida. Also I'm thinking that pushing it > > > out opens one's aura to astral entities. True? > > > > I doubt it. I would say, and I know that Rama did > > say, that the thing that most opens one up to astral > > entities is spending any time whatsoever thinking > > about astral entities. What you focus on you become. > (schnipp) >
