Beautiful.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@...> wrote:
>
> My tradition is Kali Sadhaka Garana. As a Sidh Tantric I can teach
> meditation and do some healings. It's more about the questions that the
> student first asks me.
>
> On 03/12/2013 08:02 AM, sound of stillness wrote:
> > Thank you Bhairitu for sharing.
> >
> > In a dialogue we are open to all points of view. Including being open to
> > having, and not identifying with any particular point of view. Although we
> > may favour some over others.
> >
> > A dialogue is a way to cultivate the distinction between a point of view or
> > views and pure awareness.
> >
> > You viewed TM and Maharishi in one or a variety of ways during your days of
> > participation in the TMO. You view(ed) teachers and teachings you were
> > attracted after your experience with TM, Maharishi and the TMO.
> >
> > Now, with all this experience, someone new to the path of yoga comes your
> > way. They're ready. Are you?
> >
> > With the experience and understanding, understanding and experience
> > you've gained . . .
> >
> > What is Your teaching? What is your offering to the great Tradition?
> > How are you going to help this student along the path? What questions will
> > you first ask him or her?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote:
> >> As I indicate in my post TM is a dead end if you want to become a real
> >> master. It's just a teaching for the masses. You'll never learn about
> >> mantra shastra which is important for that. I got what I wanted and
> >> more with one on one instruction from a real master. Serious students
> >> should not waste their time with pop gurus and movements.
> >>
> >> Good luck on your project. I've been in the entertainment industry all
> >> my life in one phase or another. I have some videos on the Captain
> >> Bebops channel on YouTube:
> >> http://www.youtube.com/user/CaptBebops
> >>
> >> They're mainly "sketches" as for YouTube I'm not going to try to polish.
> >>
> >> On 03/11/2013 10:13 AM, sound of stillness wrote:
> >>> You say you came to a "dead end" doing TM. What was the dead end that you
> >>> came to?
> >>>
> >>> p.s. My writing experience is in multi-media. The screenplay I'm writing
> >>> may come to an iPad near you.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote:
> >>>> On 03/10/2013 01:10 PM, sound of stillness wrote:
> >>>>> In Dialogue, a group of people can explore the individual and collective
> >>>>> presuppositions, ideas, beliefs, and feelings that subtly control their
> >>>>> interactions. It provides an opportunity to participate in a process
> >>>>> that displays communication successes and failures. It can reveal the
> >>>>> often puzzling patterns of incoherence that lead the group to avoid
> >>>>> certain issues or, on the other hand, to insist, against all reason, on
> >>>>> standing and defending opinions about particular issues.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dialogue is a way of observing, collectively, how hidden values and
> >>>>> intentions can control our behavior, and how unnoticed cultural
> >>>>> differences can clash without our realizing what is occurring. It can
> >>>>> therefore be seen as an arena in which collective learning takes place
> >>>>> and out of which a sense of increased harmony, fellowship and creativity
> >>>>> can arise.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Because the nature of Dialogue is exploratory, its meaning and its
> >>>>> methods continue to unfold. No firm rules can be laid down for
> >>>>> conducting a Dialogue because its essence is learning - not as the
> >>>>> result of consuming a body of information or doctrine imparted by an
> >>>>> authority, nor as a means of examining or criticizing a particular
> >>>>> theory or programme, but rather as part of an unfolding process of
> >>>>> creative participation between peers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dialogue is concerned with providing a space within which such attention
> >>>>> can be given. It allows a display of thought and meaning that makes
> >>>>> possible a kind of collective proprioception or immediate mirroring back
> >>>>> of both the content of thought and the less apparent, dynamic structures
> >>>>> that govern it. In Dialogue this can be experienced both individually
> >>>>> and collectively.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Each listener is able to reflect back to each speaker, and to the rest
> >>>>> of the group, a view of some of the assumptions and unspoken
> >>>>> implications of what is being expressed along with that which is being
> >>>>> avoided. It creates the opportunity for each participant to examine the
> >>>>> preconceptions, prejudices and the characteristic patterns that lie
> >>>>> behind his or her thoughts, opinions, beliefs and feelings, along with
> >>>>> the roles he or she tends habitually to play. And it offers an
> >>>>> opportunity to share these insights.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.david-bohm.net/dialogue/dialogue_proposal.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Meditation Research Conference Hosted by NY Academy of Sciences by
> >>>>> Christine Schrum on February 26, 2013
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.tm.org/blog/research/meditation-research-conference/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dr. Fred Travis said . . .
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "It was really a bold move to bring together researchers of all
> >>>>> these different types of meditation techniques," said Dr. Travis,
> >>>>> when asked about the event. "But the organizers knew we'd all be
> >>>>> united by one common belief: that scientific research can help us to
> >>>>> better understand the subjective experiences we have during meditation,
> >>>>> and the growth of consciousness."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> During his presentation, Travis shared research showing that different
> >>>>> types of meditation have different short- and long-term benefits.
> >>>>> Referencing his 2010 paper, he delineated three categories of meditation
> >>>>> distinguished by their procedures and associated brain patterns: Focused
> >>>>> Attention, Open Monitoring and Automatic Self-Transcending.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ===============
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is there any of the experienced yogis and meditators among us, of one
> >>>>> type of meditation or another, interested in coming up with a working
> >>>>> definition(s) of Enlightenment and how the different types of meditation
> >>>>> from a variety of traditions help us radiate more of the light of
> >>>>> aware-ness along the way.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One provisional working definition I have cobbled together is . . .
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Enlightenment is being in harmony with our own state of evolution. Each
> >>>>> state of consciousness has its own reality and teaching, both
> >>>>> inseparable and distinct from one another as night is from day.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does Maharishi Patanjali's eight limbs of yoga include the different
> >>>>> types of meditation, different types of focal awareness that Dr. Travis
> >>>>> mentioned?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does MMY's "program" include Focused Attention and Open Monitoring as
> >>>>> well Automatic Self-Transcending? Does any tradition?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What forms of Yoga and techniques, would you include if you were
> >>>>> creating a program that included the different types of meditation
> >>>>> and practice? A practice that would be helpful for a beginner or someone
> >>>>> more experienced.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> With tradition as a guide, approaching all things anew . . .
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Michael
> >>>> I learned and taught TM but because I wanted to learn more dropped it
> >>>> since it was a dead end. 13 years ago I was initiated into tantra by a
> >>>> genuine Indian trantric who had moved to the SF Bay Area. He taught me
> >>>> a lot about tantra and I was on the path to be an acharya but that's
> >>>> something more for a young person to do (he started when he was 16).
> >>>> Unfortunately he passed away last year.
> >>>>
> >>>> One thing about other systems and enlightenment it's more about "moksha"
> >>>> and experiencing the development of it rather than defining it. People
> >>>> may experience the path to enlightenment by different routes so
> >>>> comparison can be confusing. It is a bad idea to claim to be
> >>>> enlightened because there is always still some samskaras remaining that
> >>>> will make you different from others. And that difference will confuse
> >>>> people if you claim enlightenment.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also other traditions could give a shit about measuring things. I told
> >>>> my teacher that I was going to measure my meditation by creating my own
> >>>> heart monitor and recording it on my laptop. He told me not to.
> >>>> However I recently purchased an oximeter which tracks pulse realtime as
> >>>> well as oxygen level. I bought it more to see if it might be useful as
> >>>> a cheap way to determine metabolic type. With other traditions it's
> >>>> more about if the program works for you or not. If it doesn't then they
> >>>> understand if one wants to move on. Just as there is no one diet for
> >>>> everyone neither is there any one meditation program for everyone.
> >>>>
> >>>> BTW, off topic I noticed you mentioned you are working on a screenplay.
> >>>> Have you written other ones and had them produced?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
