--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote:
> >
> > It turns out that the EEG pattern of long-term TMers during TM remains the 
> > same as the EEG pattern found in short-term TMers: it's simple relaxation, 
> > no matter how long you have been doing it. Pure Consciousness is just the 
> > same pattern in its most extreme form.
> > 
> > In every other meditation technique with published research, you see a 
> > shift away from simple relaxation towards something different, as you 
> > become more experienced.
> > 
> > In other words, I wouldn't trust the words of a non-TM teacher with regards 
> > to your TM practice. They literally don't understand where you are at and 
> > can only attempt to transform your practice into their practice.
> 
> Ahem. Isn't another way of interpreting your first two
> paragraphs that there is no *progress* in TM? *You*
> are the one interpreting simple relaxation (which never
> gets deeper or more profound) with "Pure Consciousness."
> I doubt that scientists would. 

No progress in the technique...

It is easy to start and easy to do and that doesn't change.

What DOES change is how closely the state outside of TM comes to resemble the 
state during TM.

> 
> As for "not trusing non-TM teachers," I can say that TM
> teachers don't know diddleysquat except the stuff they
> were given to memorize and parrot. That's fine, as far
> as it goes, but it really doesn't go very deep, or have
> any relevance to the larger field of meditation. They
> know a little about one tiny technique, and nothing 
> about any of the others. They are actually *prevented*
> from learning about any of the others, under pain of
> banishment. 

Well, ok bu...

> 
> Just sayin'...  If you dispute this, cite things that
> were taught to you on your TM Teacher Training course.
> Oh, that's right, you can't. Again, just sayin'...


Where have I attempted to dispute anything about what is taught to TM teachers?

My impression has always been that TM teachers are technicians who have been 
trained to handle things in a specific situation that has been set up via the 
"7 steps."

Go too far outside that narrow field of expertise, and they're really no better 
than anyone else, any more than an x-rray tech is competent to be a lorry 
driver.


L

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