--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ...in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts 
> > > are to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an extraterrestrial 
> > > is no stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing.
> > 
> > I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. 
> 
> True, but with reason. It was *he* who took it further,
> and you who failed to be able to follow where he took it. 
> 
> > I was talking about the particular post made by GN which cited 
> > a particularly wild assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the 
> > Earth having been nuked by aliens a very long time ago. In 
> > case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired reaction you 
> > no doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh 
> > your memory:
> > 
> > "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot 
> > fully Homo Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical 
> > units from Earth, ordered nuclear attacks on the people and 
> > cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in Canaan and on a 
> > spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over
> > and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to 
> > Yahweh."
> > 
> > If you would like to continue to defend statements like these 
> > as perfectly in line with other beliefs that run rampant among 
> > the human race, be my guest. 
> 
> Salyavin was doing no such thing. He was EQUATING 
> beliefs like this with beliefs in things like astrology
> or crystal healing, saying (if I got what he was saying)
> that these beliefs are in the SAME ballpark of crazy as
> aliens nuking the planet 3,663 years ago. 
> 
> I agree with him. And that's not even venturing into
> the realm of belief in things like a guy turning water
> into wine or rising from the dead or Ganesha leaping
> from mainland India to Ceylon or beings like Krishna,
> Rama, and Sita ever having existed. Or that the direction 
> a building faces affects you, or that by closing your
> eyes and mentally repeating a Magic Word you've been
> given, you can personally experience what Einstein
> referred to as the Unified Field. 
> 
> ALL of these beliefs are fuckin' BONKERS, seen from the
> point of view of someone -- anyone -- who has not spent
> years or decades being indoctrinated into them. 
> 
> What I think you may have missed in Salyavin's post is
> that he was making the case that the *extremity* of
> this particular set of beliefs can be seen as a metaphor
> for the extremity of ALL religious/spiritual beliefs,
> if you just step back from them and view them critically,
> devoid of pre-programmed acceptance. 
> 
> > But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone 
> > who would believe this particular theory isn't likely to 
> > be having afternoon tea at my abode; I prefer not to hang 
> > out with crazies.
> 
> Yet on this forum you "hang out" with people whose beliefs
> are *just* as ludicrous, when seen without the overlay of
> decades of indoctrination. You would be hanging out with
> people just as crazy (from my point of view) if you hung
> out with fundamentalist Christians, or orthodox Jews, or
> Hindus or even some Southeast Asian flavors of Buddhists. 
> 
> Once they have bought into a belief system, they *lose
> the ability to look at their beliefs critically, the way
> someone who does not buy into them would*. The person
> who came up with this jiveass horseshit about aliens
> nuking the Middle East three millennia ago CANNOT SEE
> HOW ANYONE WOULD CONSIDER IT WEIRD OR CRAZY. 
> 
> Neither can anyone equally invested in *their* particular
> belief system. They are so *used to* and *immersed in*
> the belief system as to no longer be able to understand
> how anyone else could not be. 
> 
> Now think about Fairfield Life. People regularly post the
> same old propaganda here about "the latest TM research," 
> and are AMAZED that people aren't creaming their jeans 
> over it the way that they are. People post exhortations 
> to "come back to the domes" to save the world, completely
> unaware that to many of us, the idea of them bouncing on
> their collective butts twice a day as a mechanism *for*
> saving the world is JUST as insane as Yahweh nuking the 
> Middle East three millennia ago. 
> 
> One *picks* the crazies one hangs out with, that's all.

Hmm yes, nicely put. Tea at my place?


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