--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > ...in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts > > > > are to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an > > > > extraterrestrial is no stranger than believing in astrology > > > > or crystal healing. > > > > > > I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. > > > > True, but with reason. It was *he* who took it further, > > and you who failed to be able to follow where he took it. > > > > > I was talking about the particular post made by GN which cited > > > a particularly wild assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the > > > Earth having been nuked by aliens a very long time ago. In > > > case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired reaction you > > > no doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh > > > your memory: > > > > > > "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot > > > fully Homo Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical > > > units from Earth, ordered nuclear attacks on the people and > > > cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in Canaan and on a > > > spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over > > > and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to > > > Yahweh." > > > > > > If you would like to continue to defend statements like these > > > as perfectly in line with other beliefs that run rampant among > > > the human race, be my guest. > > > > Salyavin was doing no such thing. He was EQUATING > > beliefs like this with beliefs in things like astrology > > or crystal healing, saying (if I got what he was saying) > > that these beliefs are in the SAME ballpark of crazy as > > aliens nuking the planet 3,663 years ago. > > > > I agree with him. And that's not even venturing into > > the realm of belief in things like a guy turning water > > into wine or rising from the dead or Ganesha leaping > > from mainland India to Ceylon or beings like Krishna, > > Rama, and Sita ever having existed. Or that the direction > > a building faces affects you, or that by closing your > > eyes and mentally repeating a Magic Word you've been > > given, you can personally experience what Einstein > > referred to as the Unified Field. > > > > ALL of these beliefs are fuckin' BONKERS, seen from the > > point of view of someone -- anyone -- who has not spent > > years or decades being indoctrinated into them. > > > > What I think you may have missed in Salyavin's post is > > that he was making the case that the *extremity* of > > this particular set of beliefs can be seen as a metaphor > > for the extremity of ALL religious/spiritual beliefs, > > if you just step back from them and view them critically, > > devoid of pre-programmed acceptance. > > > > > But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone > > > who would believe this particular theory isn't likely to > > > be having afternoon tea at my abode; I prefer not to hang > > > out with crazies. > > > > Yet on this forum you "hang out" with people whose beliefs > > are *just* as ludicrous, when seen without the overlay of > > decades of indoctrination. You would be hanging out with > > people just as crazy (from my point of view) if you hung > > out with fundamentalist Christians, or orthodox Jews, or > > Hindus or even some Southeast Asian flavors of Buddhists. > > > > Once they have bought into a belief system, they *lose > > the ability to look at their beliefs critically, the way > > someone who does not buy into them would*. The person > > who came up with this jiveass horseshit about aliens > > nuking the Middle East three millennia ago CANNOT SEE > > HOW ANYONE WOULD CONSIDER IT WEIRD OR CRAZY. > > > > Neither can anyone equally invested in *their* particular > > belief system. They are so *used to* and *immersed in* > > the belief system as to no longer be able to understand > > how anyone else could not be. > > > > Now think about Fairfield Life. People regularly post the > > same old propaganda here about "the latest TM research," > > and are AMAZED that people aren't creaming their jeans > > over it the way that they are. People post exhortations > > to "come back to the domes" to save the world, completely > > unaware that to many of us, the idea of them bouncing on > > their collective butts twice a day as a mechanism *for* > > saving the world is JUST as insane as Yahweh nuking the > > Middle East three millennia ago. > > > > One *picks* the crazies one hangs out with, that's all. > > Hmm yes, nicely put. Tea at my place?
Next time I'm in the British Isles, definitely. :-)