"Peace be unto you" is a legitimate if slightly antiquated phrase, Ravi.
Yes, I get that you think I am using archetypes, symbolism, myths, paradigms, etc. to form a narrative of my subjective, spiritual experience. Language consists of symbols that form a narrative for any experience. It is sometimes a useful tool. Sometimes not. Nonetheless, I don't hold any of these things as any kind of absolute truth which would leave me, as you put it, "invulnerable to reality". If I did, why would I take down my own autobiography and disavow it as being no longer relevant? But thanks for your input. I will attempt to give it all the attention it merits. Peace be unto you, really. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...> wrote: > > Rory - You surely must mean - "peace unto me" in your last line right? > > Here's something that may help answer your question > > *Pocket dictionary of Mad Yogi's terms, Page 1* > > *Religious Delusional beliefs* - a set of beliefs, consisting of religious > terms, myths, symbolism, archetypes, philosophy and/or paradigm that forms > a person' narrative of his or her subjective, spiritual experiences which > thereby leaves the person invulnerable to reality. > > Peace unto you - really. > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, RoryGoff <rorygoff@...> wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > Thank you, Ravi. Yes, disturbingly hilarious about sums it up from this > > end, too; nicely put. > > > > I have no idea what things you think I believe, delusional or (if there is > > such a thing) otherwise, and I have no idea what on earth made you think I > > believe them, but I assure you I consciously hold no beliefs to be > > ultimately true. > > > > I will be happy to leave you out of my posts from here on. Peace be unto > > you. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Rory - I'm glad to hear you are doing well. > > > > > > I can't believe I'm now saying this but please leave me out of your > > posts because now I'm worried about your extreme fragility and "my bug up > > my ass" brutality sending you to hospital again.(I'm extremely serious, > > concerned yet also find disturbingly hilarious) > > > > > > Let me say this - I now realize that there are physical implications in > > questioning people's delusional beliefs as well and I wish to leave you > > alone and it may be in your best interest to leave me out because I'm > > extremely allergic to dishonesty and people misquoting, misrepresenting me > > and then I will be forced to respond. > > > > > > A good thing now is you can once again start claims of your > > invincibility, enlightenment, discuss your philosophy and bananagrams and I > > will not even bother. Not for a while, not after all this drama. > > > > > > Ravi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:57 AM, RoryGoff <rorygoff@> wrote: > > > > > > > > OK, I am genuinely curious, Jim -- I have always enjoyed respectful > > and heartfelt conversations with you, and you seem to understand Judy and > > Ravi. I do get your saying Ravi "has a bug up his ass," but what boundary > > of Judy's did I cross, other than trying to have civil conversations with > > Turq and Ravi, to get anointed with "the most egregious ego I have ever > > seen," twice, followed by "Bullcrap" and "phony as a three-dollar bill"? In > > what way was this speaking my language? Again, on some levels this I find > > this very funny, but on others I do not. > > > > > > > > What I have learned from it is to keep them both at arm's length, > > because after having opened my heart to them as true friends, the intense > > physical shock felt like an actual heart attack. > > > > > > > > As some of the symptoms persisted over several days I finally went to > > the clinic and they sent me to the ER, but the EKG, blood tests and lung > > X-rays (don't ask me why they felt those were necessary) came back clean, > > much to my and my wife's relief. > > > > > > > > Go figure! > > > > > > > > *L*L*L* > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes you must speak another person's language to communicate > > with them. Maharishi said this, meet them at their level of consciousness, > > so rather than going on and on about compassion and my fellow man, > > sometimes a good go fuck yourself serves equally well. It is not said in > > judgment, but rather in context. An attempt at behavioral modification, as > > would be used on a very stubborn and angry adult child. It shows them > > immediately that there is a boundary there. Not something one would expect > > to have to do around adults, setting social boundaries, but some are > > childish in their state of emotional development. Sorry if it looks ugly > > from the outside, in, but not sorry enough to stop it, if necessary. > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Judy and Xeno, I'm learning, especially here on FFL, that it's > > best NEVER to blast someone unkindly. Whether it's *important to* reminds > > me of something posted a few weeks ago: that evil takes over when good > > people become prideful. Furthermore, I think it's possible to express one's > > opinion, set boundaries, etc. without being unkind. Because really, exactly > > what does unkindness accomplish? Does it produce kindness in the abusive > > person? If so, then all I can say is that I have seen no empirical evidence > > of that here on FFL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: authfriend <authfriend@> > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:46 PM > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâ > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > <anartaxius@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > snip > > > > > > > > > > > > That may well be true. I don't think one ought to blast > > > > > > people unkindly unless one feels it's important. It isn't > > > > > > something to be done casually or for fun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Getting blasted by Barry, and getting blasted by you are, > > > > > > > for me, entirely different experiences. For me, that recent > > > > > > > post to Share was the only one, of the ones of Barry's I > > > > > > > have read recently that comes close to your intensity. > > > > > > > > > > > > You've missed quite a few posts of his, it seems. > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you see this one, for instance? > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349106 > > > > > > > > > > > > (Actually this is my response, but Barry's post is > > > > > > quoted in its entirety. Interestingly, not long > > > > > > afterward, he decided he was going to go back to > > > > > > not responding to his "enemies." Oh, BTW, below > > > > > > Barry's post are my responses to two of yours, > > > > > > which I'm not sure you saw either.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's another (also with my response at the top): > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349548 > > > > > > > > > > > > > It makes me wonder if somewhere in your life history your > > > > > > > method of responding to people developed in response to > > > > > > > some less than pleasant events, or it could a family > > > > > > > characteristic. > > > > > > > > > > > > Neither, sorry to disappoint you. Maybe I was just lucky, > > > > > > but until I started posting to electronic forums 25 or > > > > > > so years ago, I'd never encountered this kind of > > > > > > intellectual and factual dishonesty and gratuitous > > > > > > obnoxiousness. (You can call that a "less than pleasant > > > > > > event" if you like, but somehow I don't think it's what > > > > > > you had in mind.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some people seem inclined to confrontation and argument > > > > > > > more than others. So in reply to your last comment, aside > > > > > > > from the question I asked about percentages, I do think > > > > > > > you are confrontational and accusatory. I am stating this > > > > > > > as if it were a fact. But the other side of the coin is, > > > > > > > do you think yourself that you are this way or not? > > > > > > > > > > > > When I think it's appropriate, yes indeed. (The difference > > > > > > between you and me in that regard is that I'm honest > > > > > > about it.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do the people on the forum who are generally favourable to > > > > > > > you think you are confrontational and accusatory? There > > > > > > > would seem to be a range of opinion on this issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess you've thought more about it than I have. It's not > > > > > > something I'm concerned about. You probably should ask > > > > > > the folks you have in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would assume that those who thought you were would tend > > > > > > > to be more favourable in Barry's direction, and those who > > > > > > > felt you were not would not be favourable to Barry, and > > > > > > > even if they thought you were confrontational and accusatory, > > > > > > > would feel it was justified as you championed ideas and an > > > > > > > outlook on life they were more comfortable with. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no idea what your point is here. I think people react > > > > > > to Barry as individuals, not because of how I react to him. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe you're the exception, though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
