So did you get a "buzz" from the puja? You should and that's probably
why you liked it. The "buzz" would be the increase of "shakti" which is
something not well understood by western science.
Another thing we need to remember is that just the word "Hindu" was a
form of ignorance created by invaders of the Indus Valley who could not
pronounce a word starting with "I" so they put an "H" in front. Sort of
of a joke.
And "Hinduism" just like MMY said, is indeed a philosophy just like
Buddhism and not a religion. The "invaders" also thought the practices
constituted a "religion." And truly there are some Indians who practice
it "religiously." :-D
On 03/25/2014 08:07 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity? Hmmm, seems like
that's the sort of thing meditation was designed for. Is it too late
for a refund?
I don't know why you people get so upset at a few inconvenient facts.
I'm an athiest and I loved the puja, all that bowing and singing and
incense, just like some sort of religious thing but not a religious
thing because it was all in foreign and quite enjoyable anyway, so why
would it matter? Unless you are some sort of religious person who has
what they are allowed to do proscribed by someone else, but who would
admit to that? As the TM teacher said: if you like ceremonies it's a
nice one. If you don't, it's a short one. And besides, I wanted to get
my hands on the enlightenment and the supernatural powers the book
promised, so I would have sat through a hymn service at the local
church. Almost.
Anyhoo's, I don't remember any god doing anything for me lately so I
conclude that the origin of mantras is irrelevant, and also about as
irrelevant as other TMO teachings I had plowed into me like the "fact"
that most of classical Indian literature happens to be present in my
body in some, unspecified, way. Which seems to me about as religious a
statement as you could /possibly/ make.
Coincidentally, you can cure people of any health problem at all by
chanting the relevant section of something called the ved at the
unwell part of the body in another undoubtably secular (and not cheap)
ceremony in order to redress the balance. According to the latest
"discoveries" of Maharaja Raja Raam (Tony to his friends) the reason
we get ill in the first place is because the battles of the Ramayana
are being fought out in our bodies. Astounding. Order me an obviously
secular yagya immediately!
But mantras I don't care about. I mean, /obviously /they come from
some hindu or pre-hindu teaching, all this stuff does and all this
stuff is ancient. The question is, why would that be a surprise to
anybody?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emptybill@...> wrote :
Recently I have read here on FFL an argument professed by former
TM’ers who stopped practicing because they claimed they were deceived
about the "meaning" of mantras.
I don't believe anyone has stopped for that reason. Usually they quit
because they don't think like it or don't think it has enough reward
for the time invested.
Some people seem to take to it like ducks to water and become full of
flashy experiences and evangelical zeal, I know I did. Go figure.....