If I may summarize: 

 You feel that your ability to enrage and insult others, and for them to 
respond in kind, is a hallmark of your ultimate freedom as a human being, your 
ability to exert your Free Will, to demonstrate your 'control'. 
 

 Actually, it is a fantasy -- All you are, in the eyes of others, is an 
unpleasant, and needlessly provocative soul, and if that is what gets you off, 
you have truly reached the bottom of your barrel. You attempt to make a 
distinction, between those who fall for your crap, and those who don't, while 
being well aware, Barry, that you cherry-pick who to insult, and how much, on 
here. 
 

 You have never had anything but roses waiting for Curtis, and a few others. I 
doubt very much if you referred to your good and close friend, Curtis, with 
some of the language you fling at others, he would not tolerate you for long.
 

 We watch you spin your hamster wheel, ecstatic over your 'free will', and your 
meanness - your ability to both take out your spiritual frustrations on others, 
and your inability to recognize such a deep flaw within yourself. As Bhairatu 
said, enjoy your pattern - the rest of us remain incredulous at your emotional 
blindness, and on-line stupidity. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote :

 My thanks to both Judy and Ann for responding on cue to my one-liner, and thus 
proving that *they* live in a deterministic universe of their own making. :-)

That was the point of my post, after all. I just thought up the line, 
considered it funny, and posted it intentionally using the word "determinist" 
because I knew that Judy would feel she "had" to respond to it by ragging on 
me. And she did. Because *she* lives inside an eternal deterministic cycle in 
which any time that Barry says something that challenges or disagrees with 
something she believes in, she "has" to lash out and "get" him, at least in her 
mind. Ann lives in exactly the same odd universe, so of course she piled on. 

Meanwhile, those of us with free will and more control can read things that the 
determinist robots on this forum "have to" post and decide *not* to respond. 
Often we can decide not to bother to read them at all. We can laugh at them 
instead. We have a luxury they do not. :-)

IMO this latest display of determinist-driven thinking all started yesterday 
when I posted a couple of science articles that were not in the *least* 
challenging to most people. They just presented a different point of view on 
phenomena that some people are attached to and consider "spiritual" -- "visions 
of God" and "lucid dreaming." A few people, who obviously have their minds 
"determined" by their knee-jerk reactions to anything that challenges their 
attachments, felt that they "had" to respond by attacking me personally. 
Others, like Share and (I suspect) Rick, just tripped on the new, alternative 
way of looking at these phenomena, and enjoyed the articles. 

And therein lies the difference. Some people DON'T feel that they have to be 
reactive and use any excuse possible to trigger one of their long-standing 
grudges so that they can "get" the person who said something in a new way or 
something that disagrees with what they believe. Others -- Judy, Ann, Nabby, 
and Willytex -- clearly feel differently. Their patterns suggest that they 
honestly feel that they "have" to somehow try to "get" the person whose writing 
has pushed their buttons. THEY live in a determinist world. 

Others here -- like Rick, Curtis, Anartaxius, Salyavin, and many others -- 
clearly live in more of a free will world. They can hear (or read) something 
that presents a phenomena or a belief in a different way (sometimes even a 
funny or mocking way) and NOT go ballistic and react. They can just trip on the 
new way of seeing things and either join in the discussion or let it go. 

Ann and Judy CAN'T let things go. The concept of determinism really DOES seem 
to apply to them and the way they live their online lives. I've made it clear 
many times that I don't consider *anything* they say worth spitting on, much 
less replying to or "debating" with them, but THEY CAN'T STOP TRYING. Every 
week they seem to "have" to react to almost everything I post, restarting their 
stalking campaign and trying to push MY buttons. And it doesn't work, because I 
have free will. I can write them off as the not-terribly-bright 
determinobitches they are and ignore them. They, from their side, seem to react 
even more strongly to THAT, and get more pissed off and more stalker-like the 
more I ignore them. 

So every so often I "throw them a bone" and rap about how I really see them, so 
they'll feel as if they've finally gotten the attention they're so desperate 
for. This is that rap. Now, back to ignoring them as the deterministic 
stalkbots they are.  :-)  :-)  :-)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :
 
 FWIW, determinism and predestination are two different things. Predestination 
is the doctrine that everything that happens has been destined to happen from 
the beginning. Determinism is the doctrine that every action is determined by 
the previous action.
 

 Judy, you know that defining and making distinctions between things like this 
is not Bawee's cuppa. He simply can't be bothered with detail, new 
understanding or subtlety. This is waaayy over his dummkopf. And he always 
defaults to the most negative spin possible with regard to people. His is a 
world where it is necessary, indeed his very survival depends upon, casting the 
worst possible light on someone's motivation or abilities. 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 No.  It's that you can't prove either free will or pre-destiny.  So why 
bother?  Enjoy your pattern. :-D 
 
 On 05/12/2014 01:48 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   

 Have you ever considered the possibility that those who believe in a 
determinist universe are just too dull to imagine the world they see around 
them any other way?  :-)
 



 








 


 












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