---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fleetwood_macncheese@...> wrote :
If I may summarize: You feel that your ability to enrage and insult others, and for them to respond in kind, is a hallmark of your ultimate freedom as a human being, your ability to exert your Free Will, to demonstrate your 'control'. Actually, it is a fantasy -- All you are, in the eyes of others, is an unpleasant, and needlessly provocative soul, and if that is what gets you off, you have truly reached the bottom of your barrel. You attempt to make a distinction, between those who fall for your crap, and those who don't, while being well aware, Barry, that you cherry-pick who to insult, and how much, on here. You have never had anything but roses waiting for Curtis, and a few others. I doubt very much if you referred to your good and close friend, Curtis, with some of the language you fling at others, he would not tolerate you for long. We watch you spin your hamster wheel, ecstatic over your 'free will', and your meanness - your ability to both take out your spiritual frustrations on others, and your inability to recognize such a deep flaw within yourself. As Bhairatu said, enjoy your pattern - the rest of us remain incredulous at your emotional blindness, and on-line stupidity. If this is an example of enlightened insight, I'll salute it. Biggest of Macs, Fleetest of thought it is good to have you back with your no-shit wisdom and down-to-earth common sense. Plus, you really have Bawee's number (even if it is a big 0). More comments below just because, like Judy said, "fish in a barrel": ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote : My thanks to both Judy and Ann for responding on cue to my one-liner, and thus proving that *they* live in a deterministic universe of their own making. :-) The only cue you provide is for others to whip out the air freshener after you've left the room. That was the point of my post, after all. I just thought up the line, considered it funny, and posted it intentionally using the word "determinist" because I knew that Judy would feel she "had" to respond to it by ragging on me. And she did. Because *she* lives inside an eternal deterministic cycle in which any time that Barry says something that challenges or disagrees with something she believes in, she "has" to lash out and "get" him, at least in her mind. Ann lives in exactly the same odd universe, so of course she piled on. Apparently Judy was responding to the other Barry, not Baweeee so you can scratch that theory off the list. Meanwhile, those of us with free will and more control can read things that the determinist robots on this forum "have to" post and decide *not* to respond. Often we can decide not to bother to read them at all. We can laugh at them instead. We have a luxury they do not. :-) Bawee, there is no "we" here. You and you alone here exist in a universe of your own making complete with fun house mirrors that make the ugly guy look more beautiful than he is (in his own eyes). IMO this latest display of determinist-driven thinking all started yesterday when I posted a couple of science articles that were not in the *least* challenging to most people. They just presented a different point of view on phenomena that some people are attached to and consider "spiritual" -- "visions of God" and "lucid dreaming." A few people, who obviously have their minds "determined" by their knee-jerk reactions to anything that challenges their attachments, felt that they "had" to respond by attacking me personally. Others, like Share and (I suspect) Rick, just tripped on the new, alternative way of looking at these phenomena, and enjoyed the articles. Trip away, stumble around all you want. This is nothing new. In fact, not one hackneyed sentence you have written above reveals anything fresh or interesting about you or anything else. What you consistently fail to realize is that you challenge no one with your articles or your "thoughts". What you do, however, is remind me of someone I will try my damnedest to never emulate. And therein lies the difference. Some people DON'T feel that they have to be reactive and use any excuse possible to trigger one of their long-standing grudges so that they can "get" the person who said something in a new way or something that disagrees with what they believe. Others -- Judy, Ann, Nabby, and Willytex -- clearly feel differently. Their patterns suggest that they honestly feel that they "have" to somehow try to "get" the person whose writing has pushed their buttons. THEY live in a determinist world. I have no "buttons" Bawee. They don't exist. What exists is an innate dislike of ignorance and gratuitous mean-spirited people. You are both of those things. And until you finally fail to consistently exhibit these traits and as long as I happen to read something you regurgitate here that highlights those traits I will continue to comment. You are the pimple that begs to be popped. Others here -- like Rick, Curtis, Anartaxius, Salyavin, and many others -- clearly live in more of a free will world. They can hear (or read) something that presents a phenomena or a belief in a different way (sometimes even a funny or mocking way) and NOT go ballistic and react. They can just trip on the new way of seeing things and either join in the discussion or let it go. Ann and Judy CAN'T let things go. The concept of determinism really DOES seem to apply to them and the way they live their online lives. I've made it clear many times that I don't consider *anything* they say worth spitting on, much less replying to or "debating" with them, but THEY CAN'T STOP TRYING. Every week they seem to "have" to react to almost everything I post, restarting their stalking campaign and trying to push MY buttons. And it doesn't work, because I have free will. I can write them off as the not-terribly-bright determinobitches they are and ignore them. They, from their side, seem to react even more strongly to THAT, and get more pissed off and more stalker-like the more I ignore them. You no more "ignore" Judy and I than we ignore you. I don't take you seriously and I certainly don't respect you but I don't ignore you. Obviously I don't seek your response when I make comments about the drivel you write here. You don't engage in conversations you simply sermonize. You talk at people not to them and you run from real engagement by simply hurling insults the moment anyone actually tries to converse with you. In this way, and in many others, you are a fuck up and a failure and you run scared. So every so often I "throw them a bone" and rap about how I really see them, so they'll feel as if they've finally gotten the attention they're so desperate for. This is that rap. Now, back to ignoring them as the deterministic stalkbots they are. :-) :-) :-) Your attention is the equivalent of hearing the dentist's drill - no one likes it, no one wants to pay for it and its mere presence in one's vicinity indicates decay. The last thing I need or want is your "attention". Now go read Fleetwood's post again and ruminate on that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote : FWIW, determinism and predestination are two different things. Predestination is the doctrine that everything that happens has been destined to happen from the beginning. Determinism is the doctrine that every action is determined by the previous action. Judy, you know that defining and making distinctions between things like this is not Bawee's cuppa. He simply can't be bothered with detail, new understanding or subtlety. This is waaayy over his dummkopf. And he always defaults to the most negative spin possible with regard to people. His is a world where it is necessary, indeed his very survival depends upon, casting the worst possible light on someone's motivation or abilities. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote : No. It's that you can't prove either free will or pre-destiny. So why bother? Enjoy your pattern. :-D On 05/12/2014 01:48 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Have you ever considered the possibility that those who believe in a determinist universe are just too dull to imagine the world they see around them any other way? :-)