Stop this bullshit willytex.  No referendum was held in that 
territory. God is not a real estate dealer.  The UN stole 
that land from indigenous people. They called other 
communities dogs for centuries.

"But after hearing of Him, a woman whose little daughter had 
an unclean spirit immediately came and fell at His feet.
Now the woman was a Gentile, of the Syrophoenician race. And 
she kept asking Him to cast the demon out of her daughter." 
(Mark 7:25-26).

"And He was saying to her, "Let the children be satisfied 
first, for it is not good to take the children's bread and 
throw it to the dogs." (Mark 7:27).

The Jews called the Gentiles "dogs" in the same way we would 
call someone a "bitch" (Matthew 7:6; Philippians 3:2; 
Revelation 22:15).  It was a term of contempt.



--- <richard@...> wrote :

 
 According to what I've read, so-called "non-Zionist" Jews are pleased that 
Israel exists from a practical standpoint--as a haven for oppressed Jews and as 
a land imbued with holiness well-suited for Torah study. But they don't 
generally assign religious significance to the formation of the modern state, 
and often decry aspects of its secular culture. 

Zionism is used in the strict sense of the Jews should have a homeland, 
preferably Israel (Israel is where "Zion" is, hence Zionism). Criticizing 
today's Israeli government regarding policies is not the same as anti-Zionism.


-- <jr_esq@...> wrote :

 Jason, 

 There are still Jews who consider themselves as the "Chosen People" here in 
the USA.  They may or may not be Zioneists.  Nonetheless, they follow several 
hundred laws relating to food, behavior and worship.  They still frown upon 
intermarriage with outsiders or goyim.  I've posted the videos of Rabbis Kraft 
and Mizrachi and you should watch them for verification.
 

 And they don't definitely consider themselves descendants of apes from Africa.
 

 
 ---<jr_esq@...> wrote :

 No, I'm not converting to Judaism.  I just reacted to the words written by 
Bhairitu based on the issues raised by Carde recently and the cosmological 
models that have been discussed here for the past week or so. 

 But it is interesting to know what the current Jewish rabbis are thinking 
about the Jewish role in the Middle East conflict.  For both the Jews and 
Arabs, they blame their mutual animosity on the failure of Jews to perform 
their duties as the "Chosen People" in the Bible.
 
--- <salyavin808@...> wrote :


 The fact that any race thinks they are the chosen ones fills me with dread. 
Someone should point out that it doesn't give you carte blanche to do whatever 
you like. Believing that god gave you all the land west of the river Jordan 
doesn't - or shouldn't - make it so. A bit less arrogance on that front might 
have worked wonders in 1948.
 
--- <turquoiseb@...> wrote :


 A strong case can be made that it is the very existence of this "Chosen 
People" myth that has caused the ongoing persecution of Jews over the 
centuries. Historically, the same sort of persecution hounds *any* religious 
group who consider themselves "special" and "better" than others around them 
who don't follow their religion. 

 
--- <salyavin808@...> wrote :



Another miserable twist of fate was that the Jews are the only one of the three 
main western religions that can lend money with interest. So they were the 
go-to guys for a loan and obviously it doesn't pay to be soft if you are a 
money lender, hence all the "Jews are tight with money" stereotypes. In any 
alternate reality it could have been the others with that particular cross to 
bear..


--- <jason_green2@...> wrote :

This notion that, "we are chosen and special" existed in all 
cultures, tribes and societies all over the world.  
According to a yogi, this feeling arose out of a "primitive, 
insular ignorance."

Now that the earth is no longer the center of the universe, 
most societies have gotten over that idea. Only the Zionists 
and Jihadists continue to hold that view.

Integration is not possible unless this fraudulent 
world-view is dispelled.

They too are apes that came down from the trees in the 
african savannah.























  


  
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