For a Hindu it would be religious. For non- Hindus( from a Hindu perspective)
it would be CULTural. There is no conversion to Hinduism. At best a Hindu would
perceive it as *planting the seed*. Now of course when a seed sprouts it
doesn't become a full size tree over night. So, there will always be a need for
more harijans, and sudras to evolve or work their way up the ladder in Hindu
society which could take tens of thousands of life times, a real hell on earth.
You really still wanna be a Hindu? Yep, teachers recite what they are told to
recite. Do as you are told to do. I agree, the TMO is a cult. And a very
vindictive cult.
From: "TurquoiseBee [email protected] [FairfieldLife]"
<[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A request for the TM teachers reading Fairfield
Life
Another fun verse you were all familiar with, first in its Sanskrit
transliteration, then in the "revised" translation of what it means provided to
teachers these days, and finally translated using official vocabulary sheets
provided to teachers trained on earlier courses:
KARPURA-GAURAM KARUNA-VATARAM SAMSARA-SARAM BHUJAGENDRA HARAM
SADA VASANTAM HRIDAYA RAVINDE BHAVAM BHAVANI SAHITAM NAMAMI
Currently the TM movement translates it thusly:
White as camphor, kindness incarnate, the essence of creation garlandedwith
BRAHMAN, ever dwelling in the lotus of my heart, the creative impulseof cosmic
life, to That, in the form of GURU DEV, I bow down.
But a more accurate translation is:
White as camphor, the avatar of Karuna, god of Compassion, adorned with the
garland of the Serpent King, ever dwelling in the lotus of myheart, to the Lord
and Lady, Shiva and Shakti together, to them I bow down.
This translation is based on the Movement's own vocabulary sheets, supplied to
TM teachers in training on TTC. Note that Guru Dev, the Maharishi's teacher,
isn't mentioned at all.
Same question for the teachers -- you knew all this, and yet you told people
that TM wasn't religious. Can you provide an explanation for why you did this
other than, "I was in a cult, and so I just did what they told me to do and
said what they told me to say"?
From: "TurquoiseBee [email protected] [FairfieldLife]"
<[email protected]>
To: FairfieldLife <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 3:45 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] A request for the TM teachers reading Fairfield Life
Since no one really responded to the issue I brought up in the post titled
"I think former TM teachers fear the C word because of the D word," I'll try to
put it a different way, in hopes that one of you will be able to explain things
to me and to others reading this forum.
See, here's the issue as I see it. Many of you TM teachers (or former TM
teachers) don't seem to like being referred to as cultists, but you ACTED like
cultists for many years, LYING to literally every person you instructed. In the
intro lectures you gave to these people, you parroted what you had been told to
say if the subject of religion came up -- "TM is NOT a religion."
What I'm wondering is HOW you could have said this when before you instruct
someone in TM, you have to perform a puja. You chant the puja in Sanskrit, but
you were clearly instructed on your TM Teacher Training Course to "hold the
English meaning of the words lively in your mind" as you chanted the Sanskrit
words. You were even *tested* on your ability to do this before you became a
teacher.
So here's the thing...here you are in the puja room, chanting in Sanskrit but
with the following English-language meaning "lively in your mind" the whole
time:
To Lord Narayana, to lotus-born Brahma the Creator, to Vasishtha, to SHAKTI and
his son, Parashara, to Vyasa, to Shukadeva, to the great GaudaPada, to Govinda,
ruler among yogis, from him to his disciple, Shri Shankaracharya, from him to
his disciples, Padma Pada and Hastamalaka, to him, Trotakacharya and
Vartika-Kara, to others, to the eternal tradition of our abode of the wisdom of
the Shrutis, Smritis and Purana, to the abode of compassion, to the personified
glory of the Lord, to Shankara, emancipator of the world, I bow down.
To Shankaracharya, the Emancipator, adored as Krishna and Badarayana, to the
two authors of the commentary on the Brahma Sutras, I bow down To both
expressions of the Divine, in Shankara, I bow down again and again At whose
door the whole galaxy of gods pray for perfection day and night Adorned with
immeasurable glory, preceptor of the whole world, having bowed to Him we gain
complete fulfillment.
So what's up with this?
I mean, you were chanting words you *clearly knew the meaning of*, saying that
you were *bowing down* to quite a few Hindu deities, who were either mentioned
by name or by their common nicknames. You had all of this bowing down to Hindu
deities "lively in your mind" every time you instructed someone.
And yet the next time you gave a TM intro lecture, you looked straight into the
eyes of the people who asked you "Is TM religious?" and you told them "No.
Absolutely not. No way TM is religious."
Do you see my problem with this?
You KNEW that you were bowing down to Hindu gods. It was "lively in your mind"
during every puja. And yet in pretty much *every* intro lecture you ever gave
you said that TM was not in any way religious.
Please explain this to me.
How can a rational person NOT consider you a cultist for doing this?
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