what I've personally witnessed over the course of my life is that the TMO does
things as cheaply as possible. Spend as little as it can get away with,
regardless of the out-come. When it comes to physical structures, this is
manifest in planning, actual building and maintenance. Putting all three things
together with the intent to save money and they get disaster.
From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Toxics, the dome and the Amish. Not green.
Not leadership. Not Cool.
I am not surprised. Disgraceful, this corner cutting for everything, beyond
common sense and safety. Yeah, I don't know of any alternative roofing material
that works as well as the petroleum-based products, which if applied correctly
aren't a danger, in terms of fumes and exposure. Without addressing the
foundation leaks you mention, my concern is that they are further sealing in
the existing mold. Such revelry when the dome was built, and now this. Sad.
First step would be to fire the facilities manager, and give the next one a
decent budget. Some really un-grounded thinking going on, or just sheer neglect.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <j_alexander_stanley@...> wrote :
I haven't been in the dome in 21 years, and it was the mold that finally drove
me out of there. It was the summer of '94, when we had the huge Midwest floods,
and water was flowing into the basement of the men's dome like a sieve because
they had originally just pushed dirt up against the foundation without applying
any kind of waterproofing or drains. I'd walk in the door, and my lungs would
freeze up; so, I'd take a deep breath, walk in, kick off my shoes, and head
upstairs, where the air was better. But, I kept coming out of program with
headaches. At that point, the only reason I went to the dome was Petra
insisting on it, and I finally put my foot down and kicked my flying wings to
the curb.
As for the dome, itself, my recollection is that on top of all that beautiful
woodwork is foam insulation (probably sprayed on) and topped with some kind of
protective membrane. I doubt there's much in the way of new-age hippy roofing
material that could be used on such a structure.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :
I would be *very* concerned about the persistent reports of organic mold too,
within the structure. No 'suspected' about that stuff - it can be fatal,
getting into the lungs.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Question- What is the toxic substance being used? How long is it toxic for?
Does it dissipate? Is there a better ,longer lasting, cost effective substance
to use? Is the *organic* mold in the domes any less toxic? How old are the
Amish workers? Are they currently out of school and doing summer work? Are they
union? Are they undercutting union workers?
I would imagine the substance being used on the domes is some sort of sealer
and wood preserver, among other things, and that would mean some sort of either
creosote or petroleum product as in tar. These things are carcinogenic, as are
a multitude of other products including glues, foams etc. Unfortunately,
undertaking a heavy duty roofing job has to include toxic materials as I don't
believe the Iowa weather is conducive to banana leaves or palm fronds providing
adequate cover over a shelter. On the other hand, workmen should be adequately
protected against these fumes and other ways in which these waterproofers and
sealers can get all over you. To be working without respirators and adequate
suits and gloves would be idiotic and most likely against the law.
From: "Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FFL Post <fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 11:57 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Toxics, the dome and the Amish. Not green. Not
leadership. Not Cool.
Of possible interest here...
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "Fairfield Citizen karlherzl2008@... [FairfieldLife]"
<fairfieldlife-nore...@yahoogroups.com>
To: fairfieldlife-ow...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 11:44 AM
Subject: Toxics, the dome and the Amish. Not green. Not leadership. Not Cool.
Hello -
Perhaps the group could offer insights into this controversy. It appears the
repair job on the roof of the meditation dome for men is being done with highly
toxic, suspected carcinogenic, chemical products, and Amish contractors who use
teenage laborers. Some of these laborers appear very young. No safety gear
appears to be in use.
Questions:
Why is the college using toxic (suspected carcinogen) products on the dome roof
repair?
Why is the college not requiring protective equipment on adults and teens
working on the roof as a condition of the contract? (Harnesses, respirators,
clothing)
Is the roof repair project genuinely compliant with Iowa and Federal law
regarding dangerous workplaces and children? Is the system being gamed?
Why is a college that offers degrees in sustainable living, and loudly touts
itself as organic, sustainable, Non-GMO and "conscious" using toxic chemicals
on the roof of their meditation dome?
Why didn't the college insist on the use of green products, consult with green
experts or follow LEEDS best-practices and guidelines?
A survey asking for community feedback about these issues was shared today:
https://surveyplanet.com/preview/55ed8b0a4f05a0ab3c6fbe27
Thanks -Karl
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