I was getting ready to suggest an Ozone generator.I think most people freak at the idea because they think of ozone pollution on the streets like LA.Ca. Ozone generators create oxygen rich air, 03. One molecule brakes off and attaches to pollutants, oxidizing the pollutant, leaving purer 02 rich air. Had a generator for my house years ago, kept it fresh like rain cleansed air.
From: "j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Toxics, the dome and the Amish. Not green. Not leadership. Not Cool. They've tried various methods over the years to remedy the air in the ladies' dome. Many years ago, we donated money for large ozone generators to be installed that would be run when the dome was empty and shut off an hour or two before program. But, certain individuals completely lost their shit that ozone was being used at all, regardless of the reality that it wouldn't be present by program time, and I'm pretty sure that method was ultimately discontinued. And, I'm not sure it did all that much, anyway. As for the men's dome, they may have changed the entrance setup, but that basement still exists underneath it. The air handling equipment may have been massively upgraded, but it's still down there in the basement. Has anything been done to prevent mold from growing down there? Doug? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelfleba...@yahoo.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <j_alexander_stanley@...> wrote : Air in the ladies' dome is still crap, though. Even wearing a mask, Petra can't take going there more than once in a while. Has anyone thought to actually get in an air quality control professional who can test the mold spores in the air? Or the formaldehyde or other such contaminants? This isn't rocket science and as administrator or someone associated with the place I would insist on it. It is only responsible to do so and is a no brainer given the fact you are offering a facility to the public where there might be health concerns arising from bad air quality. Why not put a bug in the ear of non MUM officials in town whose job it might be to inspect these places? Blow the whistle, so to speak, given real concerns about not only the engineering but the health issues this would be incumbent on someone to do so. Hell, I'll do it! I'm good at raising a little hell...LOL Or, are the townfolk in the pockets of MUM administration? Or, are there even any native town folk left?? http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2012/06/is-poor-indoor-air-quality-making-you-sick/index.htm ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Re: the supposed mold. This rumor getsre-circulated. Things got changed quite a lot when they changed theentrance for the men's Dome to the East side of the Dome and built theentryway/ coat room there a few years ago. That closed off the basement levelentry to the Dome. The air-handling system was invested in andchanged then too in major ways. Also new foam and linens got orderedand replaced the old. There is a regular system for reducing dust bylaundering sheets. Actually the Quality of the air is quite goodnow relative to what was the mold problem. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : what I've personally witnessed over the course of my life is that the TMO does things as cheaply as possible. Spend as little as it can get away with, regardless of the out-come. When it comes to physical structures, this is manifest in planning, actual building and maintenance. Putting all three things together with the intent to save money and they get disaster. From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Toxics, the dome and the Amish. Not green. Not leadership. Not Cool. I am not surprised. Disgraceful, this corner cutting for everything, beyond common sense and safety. Yeah, I don't know of any alternative roofing material that works as well as the petroleum-based products, which if applied correctly aren't a danger, in terms of fumes and exposure. Without addressing the foundation leaks you mention, my concern is that they are further sealing in the existing mold. Such revelry when the dome was built, and now this. Sad. First step would be to fire the facilities manager, and give the next one a decent budget. Some really un-grounded thinking going on, or just sheer neglect. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <j_alexander_stanley@...> wrote : I haven't been in the dome in 21 years, and it was the mold that finally drove me out of there. It was the summer of '94, when we had the huge Midwest floods, and water was flowing into the basement of the men's dome like a sieve because they had originally just pushed dirt up against the foundation without applying any kind of waterproofing or drains. I'd walk in the door, and my lungs would freeze up; so, I'd take a deep breath, walk in, kick off my shoes, and head upstairs, where the air was better. But, I kept coming out of program with headaches. At that point, the only reason I went to the dome was Petra insisting on it, and I finally put my foot down and kicked my flying wings to the curb. As for the dome, itself, my recollection is that on top of all that beautiful woodwork is foam insulation (probably sprayed on) and topped with some kind of protective membrane. I doubt there's much in the way of new-age hippy roofing material that could be used on such a structure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote : I would be *very* concerned about the persistent reports of organic mold too, within the structure. No 'suspected' about that stuff - it can be fatal, getting into the lungs. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Question- What is the toxic substance being used? How long is it toxic for? Does it dissipate? Is there a better ,longer lasting, cost effective substance to use? Is the *organic* mold in the domes any less toxic? How old are the Amish workers? Are they currently out of school and doing summer work? Are they union? Are they undercutting union workers? I would imagine the substance being used on the domes is some sort of sealer and wood preserver, among other things, and that would mean some sort of either creosote or petroleum product as in tar. These things are carcinogenic, as are a multitude of other products including glues, foams etc. Unfortunately, undertaking a heavy duty roofing job has to include toxic materials as I don't believe the Iowa weather is conducive to banana leaves or palm fronds providing adequate cover over a shelter. On the other hand, workmen should be adequately protected against these fumes and other ways in which these waterproofers and sealers can get all over you. To be working without respirators and adequate suits and gloves would be idiotic and most likely against the law. From: "Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FFL Post <fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 11:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Toxics, the dome and the Amish. Not green. Not leadership. Not Cool. Of possible interest here... ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Fairfield Citizen karlherzl2008@... [FairfieldLife]" <fairfieldlife-nore...@yahoogroups.com> To: fairfieldlife-ow...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 11:44 AM Subject: Toxics, the dome and the Amish. Not green. Not leadership. Not Cool. Hello - Perhaps the group could offer insights into this controversy. It appears the repair job on the roof of the meditation dome for men is being done with highly toxic, suspected carcinogenic, chemical products, and Amish contractors who use teenage laborers. Some of these laborers appear very young. No safety gear appears to be in use. Questions: Why is the college using toxic (suspected carcinogen) products on the dome roof repair? Why is the college not requiring protective equipment on adults and teens working on the roof as a condition of the contract? (Harnesses, respirators, clothing) Is the roof repair project genuinely compliant with Iowa and Federal law regarding dangerous workplaces and children? Is the system being gamed? Why is a college that offers degrees in sustainable living, and loudly touts itself as organic, sustainable, Non-GMO and "conscious" using toxic chemicals on the roof of their meditation dome? Why didn't the college insist on the use of green products, consult with green experts or follow LEEDS best-practices and guidelines? 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