---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Yeah, but the end result is the same. If you mean a certain amount of people are dead in either case then, yes, that result is the same. If you mean the effect on the world and others is the same then, no, it is not. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : About 53 million abortions since Row v Wade.About 300,000 last year. Hitler murdered 6 million innocent lives alone in a 5-6 yer period. Stalin murdered about 20 million, Mao about fifty million. We've got them beat! I would have to argue that torturing and murdering full grown adults and children is different than aborting an undeveloped embryo. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : I guess it depends on your definition of *judge*. Do I recognize poor choices?Is it from poor up bringing or low intelligence.-or is it something else. Does that person learn from their mistakes or do they keep repeating the same mistake over and over. Do they ever figure out that they are making mistakes and , poor choices. Do they feel any responsibility for their choices? Do they even care? Do they feel entitled to make mistakes without consequences? Some people learn things the easy way, others the hard way. How much empathy, compassion and understanding is expected of me? For how long and to what degree? Are they taking advantage of my good will? If it's their nature to learn things the hard way, is my help actually retarding their learning process? Some people are real victims of circumstances through no fault of their own. They didn't make poor choices but shit happened. Maybe their husband died or just left them or became totally disabled. Aren't they more deserving of my empathy and compassion than someone that never grew up? When I was younger, out of wedlock births were relatively low. Today, I think it is over or at least close to half. Something is dreadfully wrong. When it comes to the woman that has the abortion, I am fully aware that she is probably confused and frightened of her future and doesn't know what to do and ends up taking the remedy with the quickest results. I feel terribly sorry for her because I don't think she really and fully understands what she has just done. Yes, she'll always remember it and the anguish. But she was talked into it and told it was the best thing to do. This is what the Beast does. What is the Beast, it's the system! Overview: Quick Stats • Half of pregnancies among American women are unintended, and about four in 10 of these end in abortion.[1] • About half of American women will have an unintended pregnancy, [2] and nearly 3 in 10 will have an abortion, by age 45.[3] • The overall U.S. unintended pregnancy rate increased slightly between 1994 and 2008, but unintended pregnancy increased 55% among poor women, while decreasing 24% among higher-income women.[1,6] • Overall, the abortion rate decreased 8% between 2000 and 2008, but abortion increased 18% among poor women, while decreasing 28% among higher-income women.[3] • Some 1.06 million abortions were performed in 2011, down from 1.21 million abortions in 2008, a decline of 13%.[4] • The number of U.S. abortion providers declined 4% between 2008 (1,793) and 2011 (1,720). The number of clinics providing abortion services declined 1%, from 851 to 839. Eighty-nine percent of all U.S. counties lacked an abortion clinic in 2011; 38% of women live in those counties.[4] • Nine in 10 abortions occur in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy.[5] • A broad cross section of U.S. women have abortions:[3] 58% are in their 20s; 61% have one or more children; 56% are unmarried and not cohabiting; 69% are economically disadvantaged; and 73% report a religious affiliation.
