Enter hell as if strolling in a pleasure garden. -Lin-Chi Zen Calendar 19 September 2015
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfri...@yahoo.com> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : No, our government doesn't dare force anyone to have an abortion. That would cause a revolt. I didn't say anything about "forcing." *You* said the government "talks them into it," but it doesn't do that either. But they sure let you know that they *fight* for your *right* to have it. Oh, they do, do they? That must be why Congress is trying to defund Planned Parenthood, I guess, and why so many state governments are putting big obstacles in the way of obtaining an abortion. Come on, Mike. This is just a silly argument, not worthy of your intelligence. Wouldn't it be a shame to not use the *government approved* solution to fix your problems? It has to be OK, the government says so! But, if you choose not to, we'll help you raise your child. How can you lose?< Of course the easiest thing (and cheapest for the government)is just terminate it. Under these circumstances, I can't see why there wouldn't be some immediate but temporary relief. This is all social conditioning and engineering, Margaret Sanger's dream come true.< If a woman doesn't feel remorse, regret or anguish following the termination of her pregnancy by abortion, something is terribly wrong with the human species. Or maybe something is terribly wrong with those who don't understand that women think they should have control over their own bodies. Desensitization to the instinct of motherhood has been completed. Oh, nonsense. Women have been having abortions for millennia, all over the globe, even before there was a way to do it safely and painlessly and legally, even when they were risking their lives to have it done. The "instinct of motherhood" kicks in just fine when a woman *wants* to have a child. I think it was Gloria Steinem who observed that if men had the children, abortion would be a sacrament. What else can we desensitize humanity to? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell' Mike, you've gone way off into fantasyland now. Women don't decide to have an abortion because the government tells them to. Up until Roe v. Wade, of course, government *prohibited* abortion. And these days it's state governments (Republican-run) that are doing their damndest to make abortion as difficult as possible. Furthermore, most women do not suffer anguish or regret after an abortion; what they experience is relief. Nor do they feel they've "killed their child." To them, the fetus has not yet become a child. To me, the real evil is trying to make women feel guilty about having an abortion. You may not like any of this, but when you make your antiabortion arguments, you need to take the reality into account and not make up conspiracy theories. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Men and women today have had a bill of goods sold to them by those in power. That is the system that men have created through governments and their programs. Governments convince people that they *only want to help you* and they give you things and take care of you, but you are expected to follow their recommendations, their solutions. In the case of a woman having an unwanted pregnancy, they slyly say " It's just a lump of tissue, do yourself a favor,we'll send you to a clinic and have it removed, your problems will be solved". The woman, in her desperation agrees and suffers the anguish of knowing that she killed her child. And if someone tries to say no, don't do it. you'll regret it", they are mocked as a religious fanatic. This is PURE EVIL. This the beast that man has created. I call it a beast because it devours human souls. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Debate from Hell' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : But she was talked into it and told it was the best thing to do. This is what the Beast does. What is the Beast, it's the system! Huh?