When things get over priced, people stop buying it.
From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Part of my reasoning is value. I used to buy a Houston Chronicle every morning
at a local Walgreens. The price has gone up from a dollar a day to a dollar
fifty, Monday thru Friday. I have reluctantly tolerated it even though I'm
guaranteed a heavy dose of liberalism day to day. However, the Saturday and
Sunday paper recently went up to three dollars and I decided that it wasn't
worth it. I stopped buying it on those days but I wasn't the only one! Now, the
stack of papers just sit there on the weekend. Nobody, or at least, virtually
nobody, buys the Saturday or Sunday paper anymore. It's over priced. Now the
delivery person has to remove them and take them back on Mondays with no money
earned on those days. I've checked other stores and found pretty much the same
results. Why pay three bucks when I can read the news on line? Why pay a dollar
fifty? That's just a bad habit I'll probably address soon.Poor news paper
delivery person.
So what are you saying? That McDonalds is not worth more than what they're
charging at the moment for their "food"? Or that young or uneducated labor is
not worth paying more to make and deliver your Happy Meal? What are you saying
that relates to our discussion. As interesting as the newspaper story I am
missing how it relates.
From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :
Are you prejudiced towards fast food workers in general or just McDonald's
employees? What are your assumptions about people who work at MickeyD's?
I don't quite understand Mike's reasoning here. Who eats at McDonalds? Poor
people, rich people, people who just want to pay less for a burger? If you are
truly paying less for a burger then how do you think that can come about? Hint:
you have to cut costs. What is the easiest way to cut costs? Pay your employees
less. Is your $3 hamburger worth it knowing others don't make a living wage? I
don't eat at McDonalds - never have for a whole lot of reasons but if I did I
would like to think the staff were not the equivalent of indentured servants.
It's a bit the chicken and the egg. If you can't make enough money to live
beyond the poverty level by working at McDonalds than what person would choose
to work there? I'll tell you. Those who either don't have the education or
experience or luck to find a better paying job, that's who. So when Mike says
they don't know their McNuggets from their milkshakes there is a good reason
for that if that is, in fact, a true statement.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
If you're going to pay fifteen an hour , you have a right to expect more from
your employee, probably more than many average McDonalds employee are capable
of giving. Might require some *focused* attention. Of course, if you are more
efficient and accomplishing more, you'll need fewer workers to assist you.
Which means fewer jobs. A higher wage may mean more for you but it also means
more from you.If someone complains about their eight dollar an hour job now,
wait till they have a fifteen dollar an hour job.
From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
LOL, $15 an hour and they can't remember if you ordered an egg McMuffin or a
sausage McMuffin.
So, you apparently frequent Mcdonalds. Then you should be willing to pay the
labor a barely living wage for your cheap meal. Or maybe that cheap meal will
cost a bit more 'cause the fast food outlet will have to pay their employees
more. That could be a hardship for you, Mike.
From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :
On 10/03/2015 08:01 PM,awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,<steve.sundur@...> wrote :
I really don't think this is the case.
Most gunowners, I mean the vast majority, keep them at homefor protection.
Conceal andcarry permits are pretty rare.
When you thinkabout it though, when has society not been in roughshape?
I guess thesemass shootings are a new development, so perhapsthat is thecase.
What Iam saying, Steve, is that the apparent runawaytrain of gun ownership and
lethal gun use onfellow human beings seems to be tied to the stateof our
society where absurdly rich existgeographically within spitting distance of
thosewho can't afford a decent meal (I was listening toNPR tonight driving home
from work and there wasan interview where they were talking about thewealthy in
Manhattan whose net income per yearwas, on average, 120K and just a 25 minute
commuteaway in the Bronx were folks who made, on average$20K per annum). This
creates a problem. Thiscreates the potential for violence. This can makepeople
crazy with resentment, with need and thenplace a gun in their hands and all
bets are off.Threatening becomes easy. Killing becomes morelikely than not
killing.
Perhaps then we need a maximum wage if we're going to have a minimumwage. For
about the last 25 years it's been "see how much money youcan accumulate. He
with the most bucks wins."
Maybe, but in our current system (capitalism) that might be a bit hard to
implement. On the other hand, I hear in America some politicians are gunning
for a $15/hr minimum wage. Good.
Sowhen you say "the vast majority keep them at homefor protection." then you
agree with what my pointwas! This is what I'm saying. Too many feel theyneed
protection from the threat from their fellowcitizens, their (geographically
speaking)neighbors, for crying out loud! And why would thisbe? I think there
are a multitude of reasons butthe disparity in economic conditions
betweenAmericans is one of them, for sure.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,<awoelflebater@...> wrote :
But, suchhigh profile mass shootings are bound tocreate media hyper ventilation
and theresulting outrage and lamenting iscontinuously ignited by these
relativelycommon occurrences in schools, movietheaters and elsewhere. It is a
subjectthat deserves attention because it alsoindicates something deeper - is
abarometer for other social diseaserampant in (in this case) the US. Gunsseem
to accompany fear and rage andmental illness but not necessarily inall cases
when their use is against aneighbor, a classroom, an employer. Theneed to own
guns, to have them handyat all times, is an indicator or asociety in rough
shape. When you can't feel safe unlessyou have a gun in your possession
itpoints to economic reasons as well.Drug addiction, poverty, lack ofresources
can lead citizens to assumethey can take what they need at thepoint of a gun,
for example. Whole cityblocks and blocks of substandard livingconditions or
millions of peoplescraping by all over America aretestimony to the sorry state
of oursociety. Even the vehemence with whichgun lovers defend their (and by
defaulteveryone's) right to own and carry a gunis based in fear and a distorted
ideathat to change the Constitution withregard to gun ownership rights
wouldsomehow be un-American or evensacrilegious. This whole gun issuereveals
far more than just how peoplefeel about arms.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,<awoelflebater@...> wrote :
More than 10,000 Americans arekilled every year by gun violence. Bycontrast, so
few Americans have beenkilled by terrorist attacks since 9/11that when you
chart the two together,the terrorism death count approximateszero for every
year except 2001. Thiscomparison, if anything, understatesthe gap: Far more
Americans die everyyear from (easilypreventable) gun suicides thangun
homicides.The point Obama is making isclear: We spend huge amounts of
moneyevery year fighting terrorism, yet areunwilling, at the national level,
totake even minor steps (like requiringbackground checks on all gun
salesnationally) to stop gun violence.
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