When things get over priced, people stop buying it. From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Part of my reasoning is value. I used to buy a Houston Chronicle every morning at a local Walgreens. The price has gone up from a dollar a day to a dollar fifty, Monday thru Friday. I have reluctantly tolerated it even though I'm guaranteed a heavy dose of liberalism day to day. However, the Saturday and Sunday paper recently went up to three dollars and I decided that it wasn't worth it. I stopped buying it on those days but I wasn't the only one! Now, the stack of papers just sit there on the weekend. Nobody, or at least, virtually nobody, buys the Saturday or Sunday paper anymore. It's over priced. Now the delivery person has to remove them and take them back on Mondays with no money earned on those days. I've checked other stores and found pretty much the same results. Why pay three bucks when I can read the news on line? Why pay a dollar fifty? That's just a bad habit I'll probably address soon.Poor news paper delivery person. So what are you saying? That McDonalds is not worth more than what they're charging at the moment for their "food"? Or that young or uneducated labor is not worth paying more to make and deliver your Happy Meal? What are you saying that relates to our discussion. As interesting as the newspaper story I am missing how it relates. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote : Are you prejudiced towards fast food workers in general or just McDonald's employees? What are your assumptions about people who work at MickeyD's? I don't quite understand Mike's reasoning here. Who eats at McDonalds? Poor people, rich people, people who just want to pay less for a burger? If you are truly paying less for a burger then how do you think that can come about? Hint: you have to cut costs. What is the easiest way to cut costs? Pay your employees less. Is your $3 hamburger worth it knowing others don't make a living wage? I don't eat at McDonalds - never have for a whole lot of reasons but if I did I would like to think the staff were not the equivalent of indentured servants. It's a bit the chicken and the egg. If you can't make enough money to live beyond the poverty level by working at McDonalds than what person would choose to work there? I'll tell you. Those who either don't have the education or experience or luck to find a better paying job, that's who. So when Mike says they don't know their McNuggets from their milkshakes there is a good reason for that if that is, in fact, a true statement. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : If you're going to pay fifteen an hour , you have a right to expect more from your employee, probably more than many average McDonalds employee are capable of giving. Might require some *focused* attention. Of course, if you are more efficient and accomplishing more, you'll need fewer workers to assist you. Which means fewer jobs. A higher wage may mean more for you but it also means more from you.If someone complains about their eight dollar an hour job now, wait till they have a fifteen dollar an hour job. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : LOL, $15 an hour and they can't remember if you ordered an egg McMuffin or a sausage McMuffin. So, you apparently frequent Mcdonalds. Then you should be willing to pay the labor a barely living wage for your cheap meal. Or maybe that cheap meal will cost a bit more 'cause the fast food outlet will have to pay their employees more. That could be a hardship for you, Mike. From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Just For the Record ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote : On 10/03/2015 08:01 PM,awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,<steve.sundur@...> wrote : I really don't think this is the case. Most gunowners, I mean the vast majority, keep them at homefor protection. Conceal andcarry permits are pretty rare. When you thinkabout it though, when has society not been in roughshape? I guess thesemass shootings are a new development, so perhapsthat is thecase. What Iam saying, Steve, is that the apparent runawaytrain of gun ownership and lethal gun use onfellow human beings seems to be tied to the stateof our society where absurdly rich existgeographically within spitting distance of thosewho can't afford a decent meal (I was listening toNPR tonight driving home from work and there wasan interview where they were talking about thewealthy in Manhattan whose net income per yearwas, on average, 120K and just a 25 minute commuteaway in the Bronx were folks who made, on average$20K per annum). This creates a problem. Thiscreates the potential for violence. This can makepeople crazy with resentment, with need and thenplace a gun in their hands and all bets are off.Threatening becomes easy. Killing becomes morelikely than not killing. Perhaps then we need a maximum wage if we're going to have a minimumwage. For about the last 25 years it's been "see how much money youcan accumulate. He with the most bucks wins." Maybe, but in our current system (capitalism) that might be a bit hard to implement. On the other hand, I hear in America some politicians are gunning for a $15/hr minimum wage. Good. Sowhen you say "the vast majority keep them at homefor protection." then you agree with what my pointwas! This is what I'm saying. Too many feel theyneed protection from the threat from their fellowcitizens, their (geographically speaking)neighbors, for crying out loud! And why would thisbe? I think there are a multitude of reasons butthe disparity in economic conditions betweenAmericans is one of them, for sure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,<awoelflebater@...> wrote : But, suchhigh profile mass shootings are bound tocreate media hyper ventilation and theresulting outrage and lamenting iscontinuously ignited by these relativelycommon occurrences in schools, movietheaters and elsewhere. It is a subjectthat deserves attention because it alsoindicates something deeper - is abarometer for other social diseaserampant in (in this case) the US. Gunsseem to accompany fear and rage andmental illness but not necessarily inall cases when their use is against aneighbor, a classroom, an employer. Theneed to own guns, to have them handyat all times, is an indicator or asociety in rough shape. When you can't feel safe unlessyou have a gun in your possession itpoints to economic reasons as well.Drug addiction, poverty, lack ofresources can lead citizens to assumethey can take what they need at thepoint of a gun, for example. Whole cityblocks and blocks of substandard livingconditions or millions of peoplescraping by all over America aretestimony to the sorry state of oursociety. Even the vehemence with whichgun lovers defend their (and by defaulteveryone's) right to own and carry a gunis based in fear and a distorted ideathat to change the Constitution withregard to gun ownership rights wouldsomehow be un-American or evensacrilegious. This whole gun issuereveals far more than just how peoplefeel about arms. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,<awoelflebater@...> wrote : More than 10,000 Americans arekilled every year by gun violence. Bycontrast, so few Americans have beenkilled by terrorist attacks since 9/11that when you chart the two together,the terrorism death count approximateszero for every year except 2001. Thiscomparison, if anything, understatesthe gap: Far more Americans die everyyear from (easilypreventable) gun suicides thangun homicides.The point Obama is making isclear: We spend huge amounts of moneyevery year fighting terrorism, yet areunwilling, at the national level, totake even minor steps (like requiringbackground checks on all gun salesnationally) to stop gun violence. #yiv4586263350 #yiv4586263350 -- #yiv4586263350ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv4586263350 #yiv4586263350ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv4586263350 #yiv4586263350ygrp-mkp #yiv4586263350hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv4586263350 #yiv4586263350ygrp-mkp #yiv4586263350ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv4586263350 #yiv4586263350ygrp-mkp .yiv4586263350ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv4586263350 #yiv4586263350ygrp-mkp .yiv4586263350ad p {margin:0;}#yiv4586263350 #yiv4586263350ygrp-mkp .yiv4586263350ad a 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