I had a yagya performed once for me. It was not a TM yagya but performed
by the Hindu temple in Livermore in the SF Bay Area. I happened to be
there with a friend before Indian new year and they offered put visitors
on the yagya list for the new year. It only cost $55. I wasn't
expecting anything but was an effect for awhile.
On 05/09/2016 09:26 AM, feste37 wrote:
I am probably one of the few people here who would venture to remark
that (and this is based on my own experience), yagyas work, although
the ones done for me were not done through the TMO. What intrigues me
about Salyavin's tirades is his claim that the TMO actually does not
even perform the yagyas people pay them to do. I have not heard this
before and wonder how anyone would know that it is true. It is one
thing to say the yagyas do not work, but quite another to claim that
they are never even performed.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :
yeah, very strange. These people have become bitterly disappointed at
their experiences regarding TM, and so, "attempt to spread the truth
about TM and the org behind it" and "save" others. There is not a
nickel's worth of space between that expression and the Christian
fundamentalists - same psychological mistake; transference. They
cannot accept that they didn't get it, and so turn on those who are
experiencing a benefit, blind to the fact that any issue is with
themselves, and not the TM or TMO, or practitioners of TM.
This is in no way a defense of the TM Org, which has a lot of issues.
But there are ways of tackling a problem productively, and there is
empty complaining. As you say, we are all adults, and nobody
appreciates a bunch of blowhards trumpeting the same hollow message,
that they know the real truth about TM and the TMO and are here to
enlighten the rest of us. What rubbish.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <steve.sundur@...> wrote :
Strange, ain't it. Someone, in this case, Salyavin, feeling they need
to save someone from themselves. As if there is not abundant
information to peruse ! with regard to the TM movement such that
Salyavin feels the impassioned need to take on the role.
What becomes a little weird is that there is no difference from this
attitude and the fundamentalist attitude that "they" (the
fundamentalist) knows what's best for another, and therefore makes it
a mission to convert "the other". And then, you must ask, where does
it end.
The title of this autobiography is, "How I Became a Tyrant"
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote ! :
I figure most of those investing in or tooting the horn for yagya
donations are grown adults who can decide if they want to spend their
money on chanting or on a fitbit or the latest VW convertible.
But can they decide? When you're embroiled in a cult you can really
start to believe what they tell you as I'm sure you're aware.
Obviously it's up to people to become scientifically aware and think
their way out of the stupidity before it bankrupts them or they end up
moving to a town where this sort of excuse for thinking is taken so
much for granted that it becomes a given rather than the utterly
astonishing load of pseudo-scientific nonsense that it actually is.
Grown ups can believe anything they like, but if people you know are
habitually throwing their money into a hole in the ground - or in this
case real estate in Florida - when they think they are creating some
sort of peace creating group of Indian chanters the we owe it to them
to darw it to their attention or we aren't very good friends.
If you knew someone who was being scammed by a devious pension plan
wouldn't you tell them if you knew? Yet the TMO gets many millions
from selling prayers and all the while setting up a pseudo-scientific
justification in the shape of Marshy's crap lectures about the unified
field and continuing with John Hagelin's equally crap videos about
string theory. It's a deliberate attempt to mis-sell something. The
funny thing is they claim to be interested in science and yet they
never put any of the more dubious products on the TM price list under
any sort of serious scrutiny.
Now, this discussion about Nader and how he could possibly have so
much money (how much does he have? ! ) seems like many are jumping to
conclusions about his guilt with regard to the Movement handing over
millions of dollars to him for some reason. Why would they do this? Is
he worth that much to them? I don't know Nader from a hole in the
ground other than, I believe, he possesses a gold outfit complete with
crown in his closet. I suggest people get some hard facts before
proclaiming his guilt from the rooftops. BTW, where did you get your
information? Judy seems to think that is important and you didn't
answer that question in your response here.
Judy has consistently demonstrated that she is an idiot to the extent
that I never read her posts. She knows as well as I do where all this
information about King Tony comes from. Is there another explanation
for the wealth of the Nader family other than the TMO setting him up
as some sort of world leader in waiting? If there is I haven't seen
it, as he's a public figure appointed by Marshy to be the hereditary
ruler of his domain I think we are owed an explanation. But I don't
trust the TMO about money for the reasons I have stated.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <rick@...> wrote :
http://m.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/business/real-estate/palm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom/nqDbj/
I just read this. Isn't Tony Nader one of the Rajas? Or is he just a
scientist/doctor? Not having been a follower of what goes on in the TM
Movement since 1985 I presume this is news - the fact that he has some
bucks? If you're a Raja don't you have had to have donated a
wheelbarrow full of money or something? If that is the case, the
amount is $1m (?) then it comes as no surprise that someone has a lot
more than that in their bank account. Only an idiot would donate $1m
and not have at least $10m in the bank, minimum.
salyavin808 wri! tes:
This is the TMO doing what it does best. Soliciting donations for it's
"world plan for world peace, bringing enlightenment and prosperity to
all nations" and then spending it all on real estate.
They have big plans you see, the idea has always a world wide network
of palaces and embassies for the "rajas", but no one would pay for
that directly so they get you with the old "pundit program" scam, it
still seems to work, get a maniac like John Hagelin to make it all
sound scientific with a video about string theory, and everyone will
think it's valid in some sort of demonstrable way, Before you know it
the millions are rolling in from the hopeful flock who have been
brainwashed for decades with crap about vedas and physics and now
vedas and physiology.
I do remember them saying that they'd give refunds in future if the
"peace creating" pundit groups didn't happen. Well they didn't h!
appen, not even slightly. This recent layout of funds on big houses
for the bigwigs gives the lie to that. It should be obvious that not
even they believe all that "coherence creating" bullshit, the question
is: What are TMers going to do about it?
I'm sure you all received the letter I did recently, about doubling
your monthly donation for the yagya programme? Bet you didn't think it
was going on flying lessons for the King, expensive jeweller for his
wife, or expensive - and non TM - schools for their kids.
Keep the money rolling in, Heaven on Earth awaits. Just not for you....
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
Tonight's Phone Call with Maharaja Rajaraam
Enjoy an Evening with
Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam
Extra seating will be available in Festival Hall
We are looking forward to the phone call from Maharaja Adhiraj
Rajaraam during Lesson Two of the Ramayan in Human Physiology Course
this evening. Everyone is invited. This event is free, and you can
come even if you missed Lesson One. It starts at 7:45in ! Dalby Hall.
We expect lots of people, so please come early. Extra room is provided
in Festival Hall.
*The first two lessons of the Ramayan in Human Physiology are free and
open to the community. Everyone is invited. *
*
*
*The prerequisite for the course is instruction in the TM Technique
and completion of STC108 or equivalent; or completion of the TM-Sidhis
Course and a valid dome badge.
*
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :
Brilliant. Yes, two sides of the same coin, yet not letting go of the
coin, which rusted through a long time ago. A dodge and distraction
from life's procession. Both the followers and anti-followers create
meaning around an object which cannot be perfected nor destroyed,
perpetually. A spinning mirror to look into, transfixed, instead of
simply dealing with the nature of life and our intimate relationship
with it. The mind as the naked emperor, parading in front of its
fantasies.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :
Yeah, he be the MAHARAJA! I would guess his family has money,
especially if he's a doctor and hung out with Maharishi a! lot. I
doubt he has had to spend much time in an emergency room or maintain a
practice fixing up people to pay off student loans.
It is very apparent that the guy has money, and it makes sense to me.
Why wouldn't a highly educated medical man have made a decent amount
of money and has anyone (imagine!) considered that perhaps his wife
has a good job? Or maybe there is family money as well.
As for some of these other people who became rajas and ranis, I've
heard at least one and maybe more had to virtually beg for assistance
to pay the million dollar fee. The TM movement is and always been full
of idiots. I have my doubts as to whether many could have made it in
the real world.
I know for a fact they couldn't and didn't. There are so many airy
fairy neurotics who crowd into the lineup to see their current
favorite guru or who run, feverishly, to jump on some bandwagon that
sounds like the next greatest thing. There are many "misfits" and just
plain strange human beings on this Earth and we have a small
proportion right here on FFL (not to mention over at number 2) who
fell into that category and who still appear (as of my last viewing of
them before the Great Divide) just as obsessed as ever with the
Movement and what it's up to or how they can work out their unresolved
feelings about having been screwed by MMY and those who were his
"henchmen". You really have to wonder what it would take for many of
them to simply move on and make an effor! t to unencumber themselves
from it all. Personally, I sense a kind of addiction - as twisted as
it actually is. The irony of it all is many of these obsessors think
of themselves as unattached just because they have a negative opinion.
It doesn't matter whether one's opinion is negative or positive; as
long as you keep obsessing and showing interest you're still very much
involved.
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*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nader's new lot
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <rick@...> wrote :
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http://m.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/business/real-estate/palm-beacher-pays-43m-for-lot-a-half-mile-from-hom/nqDbj/
I just read this. Isn't Tony Nader one of the Rajas? Or is he just a
scientist/doctor? Not having been a follower of what goes on in the TM
Movement since 1985 I presume this is news - the fact that he has some
bucks? If you're a Raja don't you have had to have donated a
wheelbarrow full of money or something? If that is the case, the
amount is $1m (?) then it comes as no surprise that someone has a lot
more than that in their bank account. Only an idiot would donate $1m
and not have at least $10m in the bank, minimum.
