--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<shempmcgurk@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> > <shempmcgurk@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
<jstein@> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> > > > <shempmcgurk@> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > <jstein@> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> > > <jstein@> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" 
> > > <sparaig@> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > > > > Were I a fundamentalist christian, I might call 
> > > > > it "counter 
> > > > > > to 
> > > > > > > > > > nature." Instead, I just call it something I'm 
not 
> > > into 
> > > > > for 
> > > > > > > > various 
> > > > > > > > > > reasons. However, I don't justify my personal 
> > distaste 
> > > by 
> > > > > > > > condemning 
> > > > > > > > > > other peoplefor having other tastes. Of coruse, 
> there 
> > > are 
> > > > > > some 
> > > > > > > > who 
> > > > > > > > > > equate homosexualality with pediphilia and view 
> both 
> > > as a 
> > > > > > > matter 
> > > > > > > > > > of "taste" so for them, it goes beyond a matter 
of 
> > > taste.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Well, but there's no excuse *whatsoever* for 
equating
> > > > > > > > > homosexuality with pedophilia.  A pedophile is one 
> whose
> > > > > > > > > sexual preference is for *prepubescent children*, 
of 
> > > > > > > > > either sex.  That's just a fact, that's not an 
> opinion
> > > > > > > > > or a matter of "taste."
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > If the sex object is past puberty, it isn't 
> pedophilia.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Also, just for the record, pedophilia is considered a
> > > > > > > > sexual disorder, whereas homosexuality is not, at 
least
> > > > > > > > clinically.  A man who is attracted to young boys, if
> > > > > > > > they are past puberty, is no more sexually disordered
> > > > > > > > than a man who is attracted to post-pubescent young
> > > > > > > > girls.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > So as long as the boy has pubic hair and his voice has 
> > > dropped, 
> > > > > if 
> > > > > > > he willingly engages in sex with a 60 year old man, 
then 
> > the 
> > > 60 
> > > > > > > year old is ONLY guilty of statutory rape?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Is that what you're saying?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm sorry, can you show me where I was talking about
> > > > > > guilt or legal distinctions?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > pedophilia = illegal
> > > > > 
> > > > > homosexuality = legal
> > > > 
> > > > I'm sorry, can you show me where I was talking about
> > > > guilt or legal distinctions?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Okay, forget whether or not you were talking about guilt or 
> legal 
> > > distinctions...
> > 
> > No need to "forget whether or not," just acknowledge
> > that I was not.
> > 
> > > I'm now asking you whether a 60 year old man who 
> > > engages in consentual homosexual sex with a post-pubescent 12 
> year 
> > > old is only guilty of statutory rape and nothing else?
> > 
> > How should I know?  Look it up yourself.
> >
> 
> (sigh)
> 
> Okay, let's try it this way.

Let's try *what* this way, Shemp?

Somewhere in your mind you've made some very odd
connection between what I wrote and the question
you keep trying to ask.  Make that connection
explicit, or forget it.




> Judy, above you said:
> 
> "Also, just for the record, pedophilia is considered a sexual 
> disorder, whereas homosexuality is not, at least clinically.  A man 
> who is attracted to young boys, if they are past puberty, is no
> more sexually disordered than a man who is attracted to post-
> pubescent young girls."
> 
> Do you think it is acceptable for a consenting post-pubescent 12-
> year-old male to consent to sex with a 60-year-old male?






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