I am happy for you that you have perfected the siddhi to talk to "elites" living 10 years in the future. Perhaps you can ask them what the price of major stocks are in 2016.
Talking to elites today would be quite dumb, and was not the focus of my post -- other than examples highlighting perenial qualities of elites such as willing to pay a premium for a differentiated product or service with valued attributes. Asking someone in 1985 how much they were willing to pay for broadband internet service would be dumb. Asking college kids in 1957 -- the year of sputnik -- if they would line up around the block to hear an small indian man in robes talk about bliss and cosmic consciousness would be dumb. Its not out of the realm of possibilities that in the future, if a wave of new high grade and respected research was be published on TM in premier journals, and hundreds of refined and attractive SV teaching ceters are established, and if a set of articulate, educated and socially adept teachers doing program 6 hours a day, living in SV house, etc) are realities, then some in the top 2-3% of society may be attracted to the "new TM". Things like "kings" seem very odd now -- but who knows in 10 years? When M. announced the Age of Enlightenment" many thought he was going way over the line of public acceptance. Really. At the time, many saw it as a radical move. Over time, things that seemed over the line and radical, are common place 10 years later. And while I am not saying it will happen, my point is that its quite a closed mind to say absolutely that it is outside the realm of possibilities that some decent number of the top 2-3% of society will be going to SV centers to learn TM. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know how many "elite" people the posters who > are coming up with these theories have talked to > lately, but among the ones I know, nothing on Earth > could possibly be considered more passé, old, *not* > in vogue, or downright embarrassing to be part of > than TM. It has all the allure and sexiness of being > Presbyterian. > > The people who are looking for the "spiritually hip" > thing to do just *ain't* gonna consider TM. To believe > that they might if we just dress it up nice and charge > more for it is just an indication of how far out > of touch the TM movement is. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > Perhaps you are mixing apples and oranges. How many "elites" -- for > > simplicity lets say those making over $300,000 /year, go to the > local, > > ubiquitous type of kinda funky yoga studio at the local small > mall? > > > > Not many. They go to an expensive health club or spa to learn the > same > > thing. Many other examples possible where those making good incomes > > are willing to pay a large premium for conveninece, competence, and > > "class" (nice surroundings, people like them). Why do they pay > $400 a > > night to stay in a nice hotel when the local Motel 6 also has a bed > > and shower? Why do they pay 35,000 and $300 a month to belong to a > > private golf club when they could use the local public one for > free? > > > > And while I am not saying it will happen, its not out of the realm > of > > possibilities that a wave of new high grade and respected research > > will be published on TM. This would (further) differentiates TM > from > > other techniques -- (even if research would show the same for other > > programs -- if it does not exist, TM will be strongly > differentiated.) > > > > And its not unreasonable the the "new" TM (taught in a SV bulidng, > by > > teachers doing program 6 hours a day, living in SV house, etc) may > > have positive factors associated with it. > > > > It is not a differentiated set of qualities that you would pay a > > premium for. The top 2-5% of the population may very well be > willing > > for the "right" product. Again, I am not saying the new TM will > fill > > the bill, but its not an unreasonable conjecture that it might. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <anonyff@> wrote: > > > > > > I don't think the elite of the world give a flying u-know-what > about > > > TM and paying $2500 to learn it. It is *passe* at this point. > There > > > are far too many more modern methods in the spiritual supermarket > > > these days. > > > > > > At the local natural foods co-op where I shop, there is the > requisite > > > magazine rack near the registers loaded with the modern spiritual > > > versions of the popular magazines-a vast variety of things to > choose > > > from-all kinds of meditation practices, all kinds of sexual > preference > > > magazines, gardening, cooking, etc. > > > > > > Most cities and towns including little tiny ones I've driven > through > > > have yoga offered and the *commonest* of people, the people who > we > > > never would have expected to find taking yoga, are now joining > in the > > > classes. > > > > > > Kaiser Permanente offeres Mindfulness Training classes, > sometimes they > > > are free. There are endless books, tapes, cds and now dvds > available > > > to learn to meditate and do yoga and you can now do so on your > 52 inch > > > plasma tv screen in full technicolor with a surround sound > system. > > > > > > Who wants to learn TM from a gaunt looking couple anymore? > > > > > > Can you name one person or center where there are students > taking out > > > $2500 loans so they can learn TM? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > <jyouells@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > Say what you will about his odd tastes, the man > > > > > > puts *his* money where his beliefs are. He could > > > > > > be taking his money and investing it in real > > > > > > estate the way the TM movement does, but he's not. > > > > > > He's actually doing something to help people. The > > > > > > day the TM movement does the same, it'll regain > > > > > > a tiny bit of its vanished credibility. > > > > > > > > > > > I understand what he's doing and admire the fact he's > figured > > out a > > > > > way to do it, but it still boggles the mind that he has to > do it > > that > > > > way. > > > > > > > > Elite people like to go to elite places. They don't mind too > much > > > > if "worthy" individuals are given a helping hand along the > way, but > > > > they don't like rubbing shoulders with the non-elite. > > > > > > > > > > > > MMY's stated goal these days is to reach the elite with > > meditation. The > > > > non-elite (most of us reading/writing this) are welcome as > well if > > they > > > > can raise the money. I don't know the financing of Lynch's > > foundation, > > > > but he's thrown open the doors for ANY student to apply for > financial > > > > aid: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/register.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the TMO is working hard to make educators aware of the > > potential > > > > of TM as well as of the financing available to take advantage > of it: > > > > > > > > http://www.arizonastressfreeschools.org/ > > > > > > > > The elite of the world are impressed with this kind of thing. > Perhaps > > > > the more spiritual types aren't, but that IS MMY's point, now > > isn't it? > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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