Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field'

[Kirk]

I think TurquoiseB has been there done that as he has said, and seen how sidhis in fact do not change someone's basic vritti.   Maharishi, as many people, masters, non-masters, call them whatever, has reified the conceptual notions of enlightenment as if they pertain to the manifest level of life.   At times I applaud this effort, because I am also occluded in my thinking, but at times I also find the external emphasis on manifesting signs, very inconsiderate.   Only time will tell if signs manifest in the general population of meditators. I would like it, but I wouldn't count on it in this lifetime here at the start of the Dark Ages.   I suppose I think that the hope and fear entailed in the generation of manifest sidhis simply cannot equal the sublimity of realization of inner mastery.   ----- Original Message ----- From: TurquoiseB To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 12:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Clarifying The Energy Field' --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh, OK- Got it. So my question back is, what practical difference in > your life would it make if you witnessed someone, even yourself, > externally manifesting a sidhi? > > Would deep contentment well up from within you? Would you gain > eternal peacefulness? Would your life be ever dedicated to God? Or > would you think about how neat it was, and then just go back to > whatever patterns your life has taken on? I think that anyone who thinks that witnessing the siddhis would change their life in a major way is fooling themselves. Been there, done that, so often over a period of fourteen years that we all got kinda bored watching them being demonstrated. Ho hum, he's levitating again. Don't get me wrong...at first there *is* a liberating effect of witnessing these things, along the lines of a simultaneous "letting go" of a lifetime's dis- belief in such phenomena. At the same time there is a level of physical freakout that is difficult to put into words (Carlos Castaneda does it well IMO), as your body reacts to having its world turned upside down. But in the long run, other than opening you in a very personal way to the possibility of "more things in heaven and earth, Horatio," it's not really as earth- shaking as one might imagine. Especially if one believes as I do (and always did, even while witnessing these things) that there is absolutely no connection between the siddhis and enlightenment. > By the way, the best book I ever read of people manifesting sidhis > was by one of this planet's most powerful and magnificent saints, > Yogananda. His recountings are 100% true, so what more do you need? Again, I think that many aren't as in touch with their innate ability to *disbelieve* as they could be. :-) One of the things that strikes you the strongest when witnessing siddhis is how strongly your mind and body wants to *NOT* believe what you are seeing and exper- iencing. They crave rationality and predictability and they (mind and body) really don't LIKE having to witness these things that Just Don't Compute. I've seen people sit and watch someone levitate and admit it verbally as it happens and then get up and leave the room and then claim the next day that it never happened, and that they had never said such a thing. They had simply blotted the whole experience out of their minds because their minds didn't want to deal with it. The same thing would happen with a book, any book. If someone's natural doubt about such things is trig- gered, the fact that Yogananda wrote a book about witnessing siddhis means nothing more than the fact that I wrote a book about witnessing siddhis. If your mind is doing the doubt thing, it's going to do the doubt thing no matter who the supposed "expert" is. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get to your groups with one click. Know instantly when new email arrives http://us.click.yahoo.com/.7bhrC/MGxNAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:     [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:     http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/   __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___