On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:58 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Because we should realize and make the connection that 

*dualistic

methods lead to dualistic states of consciousness* (e.g. the

witnessing artifact, which is an artifact of a dualistic

meditation method).



You are absolutely right. However both the dualistic nature of this  

meditation [TM] and the witnessing artifact are indicators of the 

state of consciousness of the practitioner at an intermediate stage 

of the practice, vs. the solely dualistic nature of TM. 


TM is initially and necessarily experienced as meditation of a 

dualistic nature because its practice subjects the active mind to 

its silent source. As the practice matures, the active mind and 

silent source exist simultaneously, dissolving the dualistic nature 

of both the experience and the meditation.


Did you hear that TM is a dualistic meditation from someone? If so, 

I'd be curious to know who.



Well, that's a long story I wouldn't recount here Jim, but yes it is by it's very nature. But I do feel the sequence of meditation given in Dzogchen Semde (Skt: Chittamatra) does elucidate the path from dualistic to inseparability to "self-perfection":

-quiescence/transcendence (TM)
-Vipasyana
-non-dual
-self arising perfection





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