--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > In a message dated 8/18/06 6:07:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > > > jstein@ writes: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > No , not at all. Most people want the current NSA program > > > > > > in place and it is still going on while it is appealed. > > > > > > > > > > > Wrong. A majority do NOT want warrantless wiretapping. > > > > > > > > _Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts_ > > > > > > > > (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- > > > dyn/content/article/2006/05/12/AR2006051200375_pf.html) > > > > > > I gave MDixon a chance to present these facts > > > himself or be exposed as a liar. > > > > This isn't a star chamber or inquisition, Judy, other than in your > > own head. > > The reason this is so important, by the way, is it's > an example of the kind of Republican dishonesty
Oh. That old canard. Yes. Evil Republicans. Good Democrats. > that > got Bush elected and will result in the Republicans > retaining control of Congress after the 2006 election, > if Democrats and independents don't start speaking up > and exposing the lies. > > It certainly wouldn't hurt if a few honest Republicans > refused to play the game and spoke up too. I'm hoping > MDixon might turn out to be one of them, if I'm right > that he's been deceived himself on this particular > issue. > > But I'm not holding my breath. > > > > Astonishingly, > > > he preferred to be exposed as a liar. So be it: > > > > > > The court decision that is being appealed forbids > > > the part of the NSA program that involves > > > WARRANTLESS wiretapping. > > > > > > The poll MDixon cites does not mention WARRANTLESS > > > wiretapping in its questions. It simply asks about > > > approval of NSA's wiretapping. > > > > > > A majority approve of wiretapping. > > > > > > A majority, as measured by at least a half-dozen > > > other polls that *do* ask about WARRENTLESS > > > wiretapping, DISAPPROVE OF WARRANTLESS WIRETAPPING. > > > > > > This is a crucial distinction, and MDixon knows it. > > > There would be no court case if it weren't for > > > WARRANTLESS wiretapping; that's what the court was > > > asked to decide, whether WARRANTLESS wiretapping > > > should be permitted. > > > > > > The court decided it should *not* be permitted, just > > > as a majority of Americans think it should *not* be > > > permitted. > > > > > > The Republicans--aided here, sadly, by MDixon--are > > > deliberately obscuring this distinction. The > > > "liberal" Washington Post failed to make this > > > distinction in its poll questions, reporting the > > > results of the poll as if WARRANTLESS wiretapping > > > weren't even an issue, as if a majority approved of > > > everything in the NSA program. > > > > > > So much for the Post being, in MDixon's words, > > > "not friendly to the Bush administration." > > > > > > The attempted deceit--by the Republicans, the Post, > > > and MDixon--is disgraceful and inexcusable. The > > > Republicans are painting Democrats as opposing the > > > NSA program *as a whole* and therefore weak on > > > national security. But there is *no* Democrat > > > running for office who opposes NSA wiretaps *as long > > > as there is judicial oversight*, i.e., as long as > > > the government is required to obtain a warrant. > > > > > > A majority of the American people, as I said and > > > as MDixon falsely denied, are opposed to WARRANTLESS > > > wiretapping. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
