authfriend wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> >>In a message dated 8/20/06 7:07:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> >>MD, you recount these extreme measures by past presidents >>as if they were all justified. I'm not ready to assume they >>were. For example, I've encountered many citations of >>Lincoln suspending writs of habeas corpus, but not one >>citation has ever said, "And history proves he was >>correct to do so." Same with FDR's internment of >>Japanese Americans. >> >>If history teaches me anything from the above >>examples, it's that presidents take reprehensible >>actions under stress. >> >>And you know what? What Bush is doing is far less invasive than >>anything any of these other presidents did and having far greater >>success in accomplishing the goals. >> >> > >How do you know either? All the details of the >program are secret. We don't know who they're >wiretapping or for what reasons, and we have *no* >idea whether they've had any successes doing it. > >That's why warrantless wiretapping is a BAD IDEA, >because there is NO OVERSIGHT. > > > >>If you read the poll from the Washington Post you will notice >>that even 65% thought it was necessary even if it violated privacy. >>Only about 30% or less opposed it. >> >> > >NOBODY in the Washington Post poll approved or >opposed WARRANTLESS wiretapping. The poll did >not ask about WARRANTLESS wiretapping. > >You just keep repeating the same lie over and >over, even after it's been thoroughly exposed. > > > >>These are the hard core Bush haters that don't trust >>him on any account and are just looking for something >>to complain about. >> >> > >Bullshit. If it were President Hillary Clinton >doing warrantless wiretapping, they could hear >you right-wingers screeching about it as far >away as Pluto. > > > >>If Bush had a judge reviewing every wire tap as they >>came in, on the spot those same people would be >>complaining and demanding to know if it was a Bush >>appointee or a good liberal judge that will play >>politics with the program and be a thorn in the side. >> >> > >Bullshit. You're really floundering now, MDixon. >You haven't got a case, and you know it. > >NOBODY (except maybe Bhairitu) objects to >wiretapping with judicial oversight. We've >been doing that forever. > Where did I say that?
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