It seems to me that reports from people who have experienced a teacher as enlightened (e.g., deep transcending and silence in the teacher's presence) are inherently more persuasive as to the teacher's enlightenment status than reports from those who have *not* experienced the teacher as enlightened.
That's not to say that it's *impossible* for someone to experience a teacher as enlightened when the teacher really isn't, by any means; it's just counterintuitive. It's not especially counterintuitive, in contrast, for someone to experience an enlightened teacher as not enlightened. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Robert seems to have missed the point of what I said > more than I believed it possible for any human being > to have missed the point of anything ever said. :-) > I don't expect him to do any better with this followup, > but I'll give it a shot in-line below: I read this again. Contrary to Barry's claim, I can't find *anywhere* that Robert radically misinterpreted what Barry wrote. There were a couple of terminological issues; and Robert asked for clarification on several points. Was that what freaked Barry out? Or was it the fact that Robert didn't seem inclined to question his own experience that MMY is enlightened on the basis of Barry's experience that he isn't? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
