--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have no problem with the switching language structures. Using the > language of hyponosis how are things like non locality, remote viewing > and astral projection explained? They can be tested for and have been. > Waking state a self hypnosis, ok no problem. Awakening, self > hypnosis, ok, no problem there either. I'm curious and haven't studied > the folks you have.... > > > JohnY > > > I was not aware that any of those phenomenon had been tested in a > controlled setting with a professional magician present. I do know > that no one collected James Randi's $100,000 for demonstrating that > type of phenomenon. If you have any cool links to share I would like > to read more. I don't deny that the mind may be capable of this stuff, > it may well be true. Trance states might facilitate the experience. > I am interested in reports of a mother's connection to her kids across > space. I think that might be a good area to start to test ESP phenomenon. > > As far as the states reached in hypnotic techniques, I found them > identical to what I had experienced in TM in my own experience. But I > know it can be argued that I was just used to transcending. In my > small group of therapists, who were in the hypnosis training with me, > I was able to test if other people would have the type of experiences > that I had through TM and sidhis through hypnosis. They would report > very similar states of mind. The Chopra technique, which I think is > also the old Age of Enlightenment technique is a fantastic induction > and can produce some really interesting experiences in people who have > never done TM. I also am aware of the criticism that just because the > experiences sound alike it doesn't mean they are the same experience. > But since I didn't have my pocket EEG with me I'll never know. I am > not claiming to have rigorously tested anything. It just changed my > ideas about the uniqueness of the experiences I had in TM. I'm sure > I am not alone in this mini revelation! It seems as though many other > meditators from other systems report similar experiences. TM's > insistence on uniqueness seems like a marketing ploy. The bigger > picture is that there are many fascinating states of mind gained > through all sorts of practices spiritual and otherwise. Understanding > it all is a long way off for me. >
I'm thinking of Dean Radeon (sp), Bob Monroe, Joe McMonigal (sp) (US military remote viewing 20yr project). I'll look up the links and post. Randi has been slippery lately to say the least. There have been triple blind studies on a handful of the best mediums for after death communications as well (can't remember hi name in Az.). I'll look it up. Maken' me do homework :-). I'll post soon .... I don't have any problem with hypnosis producing some states identical with TM or other techniques, just that they can and do go beyond hypnosis. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
