--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > Its actually pretty fascinating from a karmic 
> > > > > > > standpoint, considering that you've not met each
> > > > > > > other, at least not recently...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Must be nice to be able to take a karmic standpoint.
> > > > > > Not quite sure how that would work, actually, the
> > > > > > course of action being unfathomable, and all that.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am kinda speculating that for such an attachment to be so 
> > > > > strong, there had to have been prior involvement.
> > > > 
> > > > Bingo. Judy may not remember her past lives or be 
> > > > able to read someone else's incarnational profile,
> > > > but I occasionally can. She thinks that I'm trying
> > > > to goad her with this stuff about the Inquisition;
> > > > I'm trying to *remind* her.
> > > 
> > > Oh, wow, no kidding, Barry.  Gee, you should have
> > > told me that before.  Maybe I'd have paid more
> > > attention.
> > 
> > Might I suggest you read some of the works of
> > the Dominicans? I think you'd find them remarkably
> > familiar.
> > 
> > No hard feelings. As always, you thought you were
> > doing the "right thing," and "defending" something
> > that never needed defending. And as always, the
> > more you "defended" it, the more you pushed it out
> > of the reach of the common man and into a cubbyhole
> > more characterized by darkness than light.
> 
> Gosh, Barry, I'm convinced.  I mean, I know you
> wouldn't steer me wrong on this.  There's no
> doubt whatsoever in my mind that you can read
> my past lives like a book.  You're just telling
> me for my own good, no question about it.

Interestingly, you have said that to me before.

The Cathars believed in reincarnation; the 
Dominicans did not. Given the span of time it
took the Inquisitors to eliminate the Cathars
completely (and the short lifetimes compared to
now), it was common for the same Inquisitor to 
torment the same "heretic" in several different 
lifetimes. We tried to tell you *then* that you 
were caught in an ugly cycle, but you didn't 
learn then, either.

I'll drop the subject, since it clearly makes
you uncomfortable, but there is a *great deal*
to be learned about the TMO by reading up on
the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages. In *one*
generation Maharishi has allowed his message to
become all but lost in service of the creation
of and preservation of the organization that
was formed to spread it. It was the same thing
in medieval times with the Roman Church -- they
lived to fleece the flocks of as much as they
could, to create hierarchies upon hierarchies
in which they could interact with each other
and consider themselves better than the lay
people, and they liked to dress up in fancy
costumes.  :-)

More seriously, this *always* happens when a 
spiritual group makes the mistake of believing
that it has to "protect" itself. You should know
this from the very foundation of Maharishi's
teaching. Humans are attracted to that which
*attracts*. They are *not* attracted to that
which attempts to compel them to flock to it.

Big "peace palaces" full of fearful, unhappy 
people are not going to attract people any more 
than huge cathedrals full of fearful, unhappy
people did. For every "heretic" you "make an
example of" and drive away, you drive away 20 
others who look at what you're doing and under-
stand immediately what you do not, that such 
an act is an expression of fear and darkness, 
not joy and light.

We keep trying to tell you this stuff, incar-
nation after incarnation, and you keep consider-
ing us your enemies for pointing out the obvious
and trying to *help* you. The way to spread TM
is for people to see smiles on the faces of its
practitioners and joy in their lives and thus
to want to find out what they're doing that 
allows them to live that way. But instead you
show them faces full of fear and anger and elitism,
and you wonder why no one flocks to the courses.

I live in the south of France because I wanted
to fully understand the lessons of this particular
kind of conflict and get beyond it. You, however,
seem to want to perpetuate it forever. How sad.






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