peterklutz wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Vaj wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 12, 2007, at 3:37 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> I draw a distinction between the coincidental spontaneity of mantra
>>>>> siddhi and consciously sought after siddhi. In the case of the
>>>>>
> latter,
>
>>>>> shakti is aroused up a path other than the sushumna and directly
>>>>> awakens certain dalas, the petals of the sahasara, giving bliss and
>>>>> experiences at first but it does not have access to bindu,
>>>>>
> underlying
>
>>>>> oneness, through this pathway. It's a dead end.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mantra-siddhi coincidentally awakened is the will of the
>>>>>
> ishta-devata
>
>>>>> put into action which remains untainted by ego or "I" (and therefore
>>>>> remains an expression of natural law).
>>>>>
>>>> But when all is said and done it is just simple sound physics
>>>>
> played out
>
>>>> at a subtler level of the mind and nervous system.
>>>>
>>> Well, I agree and I disagree. Yeah, there is a type of siddhi that
>>> relies on sound (mantra) and that mantra effects the subtle body
>>>
> which
>
>>> projects change in the outer. But there are other types and styles of
>>> siddhi. For example you can produce siddhi through the use of demons
>>> or various spirits or various sacrifices (yagyas), etc.
>>>
>>>
>> I don't perform those types of siddhis. Our siddhis are mantra based
>> (so far). We can say though they are in English the TM-Sidhis are
>>
> "sort
>
>> of" a mantra.
>>
>>> It is interesting, in this same vein, Paul Mason recently posted an
>>> article on the Tm-Freedom blog discussing two types of siddhi: one
>>> sought by cultivating siddhi (e.g. samyama formulae) and that from
>>> devotion to ones ishta-devata. SBS recommended the later and not the
>>> former. Siddhi via the ishta is a by-product of union/love/samadhi
>>> (although as we both know you can also use karma/action mantras to
>>> direct the mantra-siddhi) and is supportive of evolution. Samyama
>>>
> taps
>
>>> the dalas via a non-culminating route, which does not lead to
>>> union/bindu. Although it does produce a rather addictive kind of
>>>
> bliss
>
>>> and illusory experiences.
>>>
>> The tantric mantras are much more used as tools for healing and
>> solutions people may need for problems.
>>
>>
>
> Cool, where do I get some?
>
http://realtantrasolutions.com
