--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >
> > This is an important technique and taught in many of the higher 
> yogas  
> > of both Hindu and Buddhist tantra.
> > 
> > It is not taught in TM or the TMSP. <snip>
> 
> It has been an automatic *result* of the TM/TMSP (and in the 
pathless 
> path emerging from and always underlying their built-in self-
> transcendence); at any rate that has been my experience. 

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. That there is absolutely a result 
of clearing one's perception to see life as it really is through the 
practice of TM/TMSP. Doesn't need to be taught, just held on to long 
enough for it to happen.

Perhaps some confusion arises when this process of the 
rotating/counter-rotating pranas are seen as a strictly linear 
process. In other words that the rotation of prana towards the senses 
slows down and ceases in one's life, before the counter-rotation 
begins. Which must happen experience by experience, but not 
monolithically. in other words, we can experience both states before 
the rotation towards the senses is completely exhausted for all time. 
Then they join up in blissful union anyway, so the model no longer 
works.

Anyway I find it fun when my intuition recognizes something and you 
then explain it in depth! Fun! :-) 

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