On Jun 8, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Rory Goff wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>

>
> Not everyone is as fortunate as we have been Rory.
>
> I did not get that "instruction". I just knew it was...and left.

Yes, that's what I mean about getting that instruction. Much of
the "really good stuff" is on that level of knowing, I'm finding :-)

> > (By the way, I'm pretty sure Judy is a Dharmapala.)

> Maybe for codependent TB's she is,

You mean codependent as in "codependent arising illusion"? :-)

Uhhh, no.


> but it's a samsaric pattern my
> friend and not the activity of a bodhisatva, although alot of
> bleeding heart liberals DO believe they are...

I see her quite differently, now that my own anger/hurt/blame around
the TMO has been healed. Essentially in this bodymind of awareness,
she's a Dharmapala of practically perfect diamond-mind!

I think you're likely skrying a future self of your own intentionality, not necessarily her own.

It's not necessarily a good thing to confuse future-self and present- self.


>nonetheless she is
> rather lovable in her own curmudgeonly way.

Lovable, yes. Curmudgeonly? I'd say "exacting" -- upholding the
Dharma of Truth to a "T" -- *not* supporting the TMO "party-line"
when it deviates from the Truth, but also *not* supporting a knee-
jerk/illogical attack on the TMO stemming from the hurt/anger/blame
cycle mentioned above.

Well we know our dear Judy is NOT a TMO fan...that's a given. She's a critic, albeit operating on a group of assumptions imprinted from that very TMO...and so sorely not referenced from other parallel and/ or independent sources. It's hard to take her all that seriously. Have you ever been annoyed by a fly?


> I've suggested many. Like the one Rory and I are talking about: an
> Indian yogin and an American yogini, both of the Saraswati lineage
> that Swami Brahmananda Saraswati was from. Both lineage holders:
yogi/
> ni's who have realized the vision of all the chakra petals and
routes
> to Unity....and most importantly know how to help all types of
> students, of all dispositions and doshas, and the sadhanas that
lead
> to Unity uniquely for them. I think that's a beautiful thing, a
rare
> thing and an important thing.

And an *ideal* thing....Sounds as if *someone* may be putting
*someone* up on another pedestal...? ;-)

Naw. Just a recognition and appreciation of ability and skillful means relevant to a suffering TMSP audience.

And sometimes there's an answer.


And again, I am *not* at all sure how relevant the chakra-petals are
to actual Awakening. And yet again, the misUnderstanding of the Hrit-
padma is nothing to sneeze at! :-)

Not much at all. I always loved Dr. Pete's example of subtle-body maps as spiritual pornography. It truly can become just like that.


> Short of a sadhana chip implant, I don't know how much better it
> could get. ;-)

But that's what we all *have*, as far as I can see! :-)

Don't assume everyone's attuned that much!

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