On Jun 8, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Rory Goff wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Not everyone is as fortunate as we have been Rory. > > I did not get that "instruction". I just knew it was...and left. Yes, that's what I mean about getting that instruction. Much of the "really good stuff" is on that level of knowing, I'm finding :-) > > (By the way, I'm pretty sure Judy is a Dharmapala.) > Maybe for codependent TB's she is, You mean codependent as in "codependent arising illusion"? :-)
Uhhh, no.
> but it's a samsaric pattern my > friend and not the activity of a bodhisatva, although alot of > bleeding heart liberals DO believe they are... I see her quite differently, now that my own anger/hurt/blame around the TMO has been healed. Essentially in this bodymind of awareness, she's a Dharmapala of practically perfect diamond-mind!
I think you're likely skrying a future self of your own intentionality, not necessarily her own.
It's not necessarily a good thing to confuse future-self and present- self.
>nonetheless she is > rather lovable in her own curmudgeonly way. Lovable, yes. Curmudgeonly? I'd say "exacting" -- upholding the Dharma of Truth to a "T" -- *not* supporting the TMO "party-line" when it deviates from the Truth, but also *not* supporting a knee- jerk/illogical attack on the TMO stemming from the hurt/anger/blame cycle mentioned above.
Well we know our dear Judy is NOT a TMO fan...that's a given. She's a critic, albeit operating on a group of assumptions imprinted from that very TMO...and so sorely not referenced from other parallel and/ or independent sources. It's hard to take her all that seriously. Have you ever been annoyed by a fly?
> I've suggested many. Like the one Rory and I are talking about: an > Indian yogin and an American yogini, both of the Saraswati lineage > that Swami Brahmananda Saraswati was from. Both lineage holders: yogi/ > ni's who have realized the vision of all the chakra petals and routes > to Unity....and most importantly know how to help all types of > students, of all dispositions and doshas, and the sadhanas that lead > to Unity uniquely for them. I think that's a beautiful thing, a rare > thing and an important thing. And an *ideal* thing....Sounds as if *someone* may be putting *someone* up on another pedestal...? ;-)
Naw. Just a recognition and appreciation of ability and skillful means relevant to a suffering TMSP audience.
And sometimes there's an answer.
And again, I am *not* at all sure how relevant the chakra-petals are to actual Awakening. And yet again, the misUnderstanding of the Hrit- padma is nothing to sneeze at! :-)
Not much at all. I always loved Dr. Pete's example of subtle-body maps as spiritual pornography. It truly can become just like that.
> Short of a sadhana chip implant, I don't know how much better it > could get. ;-) But that's what we all *have*, as far as I can see! :-)
Don't assume everyone's attuned that much!