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FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Rick writes snipped:
> --- many have left because they got sick of the bickering, even if
> they didn't participate in it. You and the rest of the AMT crowd 
have
> been valuable contributors, and I would hate to lose you, but as I
> recall,FFL was a much more harmonious place before you all arrived. 
> 
> Tom T:
> Eggzactly. Anything and everything expressed her is nothing but an
> opinion, a POV. As Bryon Katie has so aptly pointed out there is no
> way any of us can ever know exactly the truth of any statement. The
> exasperation is in the continual insistence that any one person can
> know or have the divine insight to know what is true and what is a
> lie.

Byron Katie notwithstanding, it doesn't always take
"divine insight" to know when someone is lying.
More often than not, all it takes is common sense.

If you want to take the extreme relativist position
that there are no such things as facts, fine, but
that rather seriously limits the kinds of things
you can talk about.

For instance, the assertion that there is no way
any of us can ever know exactly the truth of any
statement. If that's the case, how come you take
Katie's statement to that effect to be true? It's
an infinite regress.

So shut the f*ck up; you have nothing to
contribute. (Nor does she, at least on that score.)





 Just give it up kids it is just another addiction or attachment
> if you like that word better. State your experience or understanding
> and let others have the liberty to do the same. We all are sick to
> death of it. If you insist then take it back to AMT where no one
> gives a sh*t what you say or do. Tom


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