Thanks Bill.

Your reply increases our comfort level somewhat.

A technical question re the bulk ingests / purges:  will browser 
timeouts become an issue in the new Web Administrator?
(We currently have bulk ingests which can take well over 5 minutes in 
the Java Swing client.)


Janna



Bill Branan wrote:
> Hi Janna,
>
> It's certainly true that the new Web Administrator does not provide 
> all of the functionality that the Swing-based Administrator provides, 
> at least not yet. The features comparison page you pointed to was 
> originally created to try to nail down the features we thought were 
> most important to include in the first iteration of the Web 
> Administrator. That page was then updated to show which features 
> actually made it in on this first round. We intend to add features to 
> the Web Administrator in future Fedora releases; some of those 
> features will cover functions which are already provided by the Swing 
> Administrator, some will be entirely new. 
>
> At this point we really don't have a time-line for the retirement of 
> the Swing Administrator because that will depend on how quickly we are 
> able to add these new features to the Web Administrator. The notice in 
> the release notes is really there just to let you know that we don't 
> intend to do any further work to improve the Swing-based Administrator 
> as that effort will instead be going into the Web Administrator. That 
> being the case, we see that there will likely come a point when the 
> Swing-based Administrator is no longer needed, which is when it will 
> be retired.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Bill
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Janna Wemekamp 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     G'day,
>
>     We've been carefully reading the 3.2 release notes and the 3.2
>     documentation about the new web-based Admin client to determine if we
>     can use it as part of the custom work-flow system we're building for a
>     pilot project using FedoraCommons. We're currently on FC 3.1 and
>     use the
>     Java Swing client to bulk ingest large numbers of objects via FOXML
>     files built by custom applications. We also use many of its other
>     features - such as purging objects - regularly.
>     In fact, the only major feature we don't use is Batch processing.
>
>     We're particularly concerned about the following statement in the
>     Release Notes:
>
>        /The enhancements below introduce a web-based repository
>        adminstrative client
>      
>      
> <http://fedora-commons.org/confluence/display/FCR30/Fedora+Web+Administrator>.
>        Although the legacy java-swing client is still included in the
>        release, this represents an initial move towards its deprecation.
>        /
>
>     The detailed description of the new Admin client (as compared to the
>     Java Swing client) in
>     http://fedora-commons.org/confluence/display/DEV/Old+Admin+Features is
>     extremely concerning - particularly the following statements:
>
>        /The following list of features are those which are provided by the
>        'old' Fedora Administrator. For comparison purposes, features in
>        lighter font are those which have not been implemented in the Web
>        Administator. It is possible that some of these features will be
>        implemented in the future.// /
>
>     The new Admin client's functionality is significantly reduced compared
>     to the current Java client!
>     Although we applaud the development of a web-based client, we will not
>     be able to use it in our pilot project as-is:
>     the functions we currently need are not available.
>
>     What are the plans for the future functionality of the new Admin
>     client?
>     What is the time-frame for the retirement of the Java Swing client?
>
>
>     TIA!
>
>
>     Janna Wemekamp
>
>
>     
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