I can ask if they have a history of it. They say they bleach clean cages.
I will tell you what happens, though. Litters get mixed up. If a good sam brings in some found kittens, who knows if they were ever from the same litter to begin with. If they are owner surrenders, who can say if they don't throw in several small litters together. We all strongly suspect that if we agree to take a litter, and there is a singleton around of the same age, that TLAC will stick the singleton in with the others. But we have no proof. And I really wouldn't blame them. My quarantine procedures are not what they should be or what I want them to be. I am these kittens' only chance, though, even if some pass. I am the only group that takes in kittens less than 6 weeks/1 lb. So they call me and if I say no, they kill them directly. I haven't taken any in in 2-3 weeks, though., The history of the momcat is that she was dumped at the shelter by her family. They said "She's pregnant, we don't want her" and left without even giving her name. So I have no way of knowing if she ever saw a vet before the shelter. I named her Faith.... Before I got her she got standard workup: Rabies, Distemper shot, combo test, Revolution. I haven' t vaccinated any of the kittens. I took the first litter up at 6 weeks, but they did not weigh enough to be vaccinated. They were sick and I got Clavamox for them. They are now over 1lb, but too ill to be vaccinated. The only vomit I have seen is from Caroline, an adult I'm trying to syringe feed. On 5/8/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Who can afford necropsies? Does the shelter have a history of panleuk (many have it every year). Do they bleach-clean cages, move cats from cage to cage, put multiple cats from different places in the same cage? Do they vaccinate on intake? What is the vaccination history on the momcat who stopped nursing? When do you or your rescue start vaccinations? I use the Heska ultranasal FVRCP vaccine that can be started as early as 4 weeks (tho I wait till around 5 weeks.) How fast are the cats/kittens going downhill. What behavior do you see around the water bowl near the end? What color is any vomit? (Yuck, I know. But it's relevant.) Do you do a 14 day quarantine on new arrivals? From what you have said I would be a little concerned about panleuk. But you can rule it in or out without a necropsy. Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have not ruled out anything. My rescue can't afford necropsies on each kitten:(. They *all* seem much, much better after the switch to zithro. But it is only the snowshoe I'm convinced died of URI. On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote: > Have you ruled out panleukopenia? > > These are tiny kittens who started off on the wrong paw to begin with. Was > the mom who stopped nursing vaccinated during the pregnancy or while > nursing? > > FYI: BNP ointment is far superior to terramycin. > > Kelley Saveika wrote: > Lost one about 5 weeks old yesterday. Very bad eye discharge, perhaps > the worst I've seen. Congestion too. She was eating, though, and i > did not expect her to die. Last week I came downstairs to find one > lying in the floor close to death. He was suffering so I had him PTS > (actually I told the vet if he could do anything to do it, but if he > was suffering and too far gone, to PTS).. He was very, very cold. > No other symptoms I could detect. 3 have died of unknown causes. > One maybe fading kitten syndrome. Weighed 4 oz at 22 days, died at 23 > days. Mom stopped feeding, so I fed and when I was at work she was at > the vet. She died at vet. One kitten dead in bathroom when I went > in, no prior symptoms. One died yesterday, had seemed unstable so I > was syringe feeding A/D, he was taking it well. > > All died between 3-5 weeks. The living ones are 4-7 weeks. Living > ones have horrible congestion, some with severe eye infections, some > not. Were on clavamox x2 weeks. Were on triple antiobiotic drops for > eyes, have bumped that up to terramycin. > > I also have one adult who is not eating and is vomiting up syringed > food within 3-5 minutes after feeding. > > Another adult who is not eating but taking syringe food well. > > I lose kittens to URI every year. Not usually this many, but I do not > usually take in this many either. I take a lot of kittens who don't > have high viability to begin with. I'm especially a sucker for those > who come in to the shelter solo at 3 weeks:( > > On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote: > > Lost to uri? What age, and what symptoms. I've dealt with some really > > nasty shelter uris but have never lost anyone to it. I usually do > zithromax > > and clavamox combined, use Transfer Factor feline formula to boost > > nutrition, pedialyte to maintain hydration and electrolyte balance. So > tell > > me what symptoms and how old the cats/kittens are. I'm pretty good with > > uris. > > > > Kelley Saveika wrote: > > It is for URI. I have lost several already. > > > > On 5/7/07, Susan Hoffman wrote: > > > If it's for a uri or pneumonia, zith is really effective. > > > > > > Kelley Saveika wrote: > > > Target is cheaper than CVS. $32 something. Just hope the meds work. > > > > > > On 5/7/07, Kelley Saveika wrote: > > > > Correct, an online purchase will not do. I will try to call everyone. > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > On 5/7/07, gary wrote: > > > > > If you must buy this in the next couple of hours it sounds like an > > > online > > > > > purchase won't do, is that correct? If you need it right away, I > would > > > call > > > > > all the pharmacies in your area and ask how much for the > prescription > > > you > > > > > have. When I did this I found one that was $15 cheaper than any of > the > > > > > others. Funny though, when I went to fill another one awhile later > it > > > was > > > > > $15 more expensive and I didn't have the receipt to prove they sold > it > > > to me > > > > > cheaper before. 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