The skepticism is by people who have dealt with FIP and been brought to our knees by it. Any active rescue person has seen repeated cases of FIP. We have tried all manner of treatment, very often without success. And when we have had what could be called success it was always a situation where we could not be sure that we were dealing with FIP. We've earned our skepticism the hard way and have learned not to get our hopes up with this disease.
I am thrilled that your kitten survived. But I am not convinced that we now have a viable treatment for FIP. But I do hope for that to come eventually. --- On Mon, 11/23/09, jbero tds.net <jb...@tds.net> wrote: > From: jbero tds.net <jb...@tds.net> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Reversal of FIP in my six-month-old kitten > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 2:29 PM > I find the skepticism and questioning > surrounding the diagnosis and > treatment of FIP interesting. I have to say, however, > that every laboratory > test, whether it be in human or veterinary medicine, is > subject to failure; > either giving false positives or false negatives. > This is a far more common > problem than most people may understand. Nothing is > 100% in any test, > ever. The best and really only currently known way to > deal with this is by > looking at the clinical presentation, history and lab work > together. > > In this case, the presence of coronavirus in a related > kitten, the age of > the kitten, the clinical symptoms of fever, anemia and > central nervous > system impairment, I would say, that you are very very very > likely looking > at FIP or at least the entity in how it is > understood. As far as diagnosing > it by autopsy, it can also be done with a tissue > biopsy. You are looking > for pyogenicgranulomas, a histologic (microscopic) > diagnosis. FIP is an > entity that is not entirely understood therefore > diagnosiing it accurately > is difficult. It is simply a constellation of > symptoms and lab work. That > is precisely what you are looking at in this situation. > > What I am saying is that there is a cyclical line of > reasoning here. FIP > cannot be easily diagnosed and all are in agreement with > that, so dismissing > that this is FIP on the grounds that it's not been > definitively diagnosed is > nonsensical. Given the fact that it fulfills most of > the criteria for FIP > we have to go with the most likely scenario that it > is. It fits a non > effusive form of FIP almost perfectly. > > Given that, I am excited about the possibility of a > treatment. Whatever > this cat had, whatever you believe was the diagnosis (and > by the way it is > obvious that extensive tests, looking to identify alternate > causes, were > done). Whether you call FIP a wastebasket diagnosis, > this cat responded and > survived. The other cat, with identical symptoms, did > not receive this full > treatment and died. There is some success here, > whatever your belief on > the diagnosis is. > > I understand skepticism but there something happened here, > even with don't > fully understand what. Is it not worth, therefore, > investigating? > > Well, that's just my opinion. > > Jenny > > > On 11/23/09, MaryChristine <twelvehousec...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > corona virus titres do NOT prove FIP. cats can have > high FeCoV titres and > > not progress to FIP, and cats who have progressed to > FIP can have low > > titres > > because their exposure was so long before that the > virus itself is out of > > their systems, although the FIP mutation is not. > > > > FIP is the new favorite diagnosis for, "we haven't a > clue." > > > > like susan, i would love for there to be an answer for > FIP--it's much worse > > than FeLV, because there's no way to predict who will > get it, no way to > > prevent it, and no way to treat it. but calling > everything FIP, as has > > become the habit over the past three years or so, just > makes actual > > diagnosis and learning more muddier. > > > > MC > > > > -- > > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > > Maybe That'll Make The Difference.... > > > > MaryChristine > > Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue > (www.purebredcats.org > > ) > > Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
