On Sunday, Jun 8, 2003, at 10:35 America/Vancouver, David H. Bailey wrote:

Well, after what happened (or didn't happen) with the PowerPC, they may have decided to wait and be sure that whatever new path Apple was going to take was really going to stick, and work, and be accepted.

Nah, not really David. Apple itself dropped support for OS 9 over a year ago and had indicated long before that there was no future for it.


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Who knows? Well, I'll bet that those that do know are not at liberty to say why they had to wait,

Yes, I believe that's the case. Almost sorry to remark that America is noted for the right of its citizens to free speech.



but I will bet that the people doing the actual development would have loved to have gotten started on porting it to OSX long before they were allowed to.

Undoubtedly the few Mac programmers would have. Carbon centralizes what was previously dealt with by numerous managers and offers a hugely expanded event handling mechanism, unix is always available, and Cocoa is arguably the most beautifully designed set of classes on the planet.



Philip




Philip M. Aker wrote:
On Saturday, Jun 7, 2003, at 13:17 America/Vancouver, David W. Fenton wrote:
Nope. It's Coda not having had their ear to the ground 6 years ago when Apple sent out copious notes about coming changes.

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I think that Code is following exactly the same path with OS X as they did with Win32, and my guess is that this involves a major code restructuring and maybe even a conversion to new development tools, > ...
I'll agree that a port takes time but other than that:
1. Should have learned from Windows port that they'd have to allow for that time.
2. They're still using CodeWarrior for Mac development.
3. They essentially let the Mac-specific code stagnate since the adaption to PowerPC (1995?) thereby exacerbating porting issues for OS X compatibility.
4. Misreading their own market, management made a deliberate decision NOT to invest in the Mac platform. That is to say it appears that the only function Mac programmers have at Coda is to port Windows code. This has serious repercussions because currently, the UI features are largely based on what someone who doesn't actually know or care about Macs "thinks" is possible to port from x86 target based on the 1993 era System 7 toolbox. What the hell? Today's typical Mac user has a far greater software experience she did 5 or 10 years years ago and isn't fooled so easily. That's the $US284,000 message from the Mac user community for lack of platform support. IMO, whoever at Coda has been making those kinds of decisions should resign and pay back the lost sales from their own pockets. This money will then be used to advance the Macintosh version to state of the art.

Philip Aker http://www.aker.ca


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