On 13 Jun 2003 at 15:26, Brad Beyenhof wrote:

> on 6/13/03 2:43 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Friday, June 13, 2003, at 05:01  PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
> >
> >> Someone else wrote and suggested WinAmp, but that's infested with
> >> spyware, as are all the more popular MP3 players, and I simply won't
> >> abide having those kinds of things installed on my PC.
> > 
> > Surely there must be some sort of bare-bones freeware MP3 player for PC
> > that doesn't have all the spyware garbage?  I mean, there are several
> > of these for Mac, none of which have any spyware, and this despite the
> > fact that iTunes is so good that there's very little demand for
> > third-party MP3 solutions.  It would be shocking if Windows equivalents
> > didn't exist.
> 
> Who told you that Winamp has spyware?  It's possible that the 3.0 version
> does, but it's a resource hog anyway.  Winamp 2.91
> (http://classic.winamp.com) is what I use and have used since before version
> 2.0.
> 
> I've run Ad-aware (http://www.lavasoftusa.com), the most potent anti-spyware
> program for Windows, many times... It has never found a single one of
> WinAmp's files to be at fault.

Well, every time I've ever run an AdAware scan on a machine with 
WinAmp it's fingered the Alexa extensions for Internet Explorer. 
Indeed, I just installed WinAmp3 and then ran AdAware and it found an 
new Alexa key.

Also, Winamp wanted to phone home after the installation -- you were 
given no ability to say "No, I don't want to register," and even 
after hitting the ABORT button on the registration attempt, it 
*still* bumped up against my firewall. I've set my firewall to 
prohibit WinAmp from getting past it, and it's logging it and will 
tell me if WinAmp tries to do so.

I hate the UI, it's ugly as sin, so I guess I'll have to install the 
frigging stupid skins (skins are such an abominably stupid idea and a 
colossal waste of time and energy for anyone) to see if one of them 
doesn't offend my eye.

Also, the overal playback quality does not seem to me to be the same 
as what I was getting from QuickTime, which seemed to me to have a 
"silkier" sound to it. Too bad QT won't play without hiccups.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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