I think we're not on the same page here. Your London
Bridges example makes me think you haven't quite seen
what's happening in the new Simple entry yet. There
would be no octave switching in that example (assuming
we're both just talking about the melody -  I wouldn't
know which harmony you're referring to if that's the
case).

When you press a pitch key in simple entry, it chooses
the octave for that pitch which is closest to the last
entered pitch. Since the largest interval in London
Bridges is a Perfect 4th, it will guess correctly
every time in this example.

Similarly, if you had a five octave scale, in Speedy
you would need to switch octaves while in Simple you
would not.

Tyler

--- Aaron Sherber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 03:44 PM 8/28/2003, Tyler Turner wrote:
>  >Yes, if the notes constantly change rhythms and
> are
>  >continuously jumping octaves, you have a situation
>  >where Speedy is faster. But this is extremely
> uncommon
>  >in the music I've seen.
> 
> I would say the truth is somewhere in the middle.
> Most music is not made up 
> of 'constantly changing rhythms', but neither is it
> made up of a string of 
> 8th notes. Hum any few bars of classical music, and
> I think you'll find a 
> good mix of different rhythms.
> 
>  >into play. After all, continual octave jumping
>  >passages are probably most "common" in keyboard
> music,
>  >right?
> 
> It's not just octave jumps, though -- it's any
> passage which includes notes 
> on either side of the single octave Simple gives
> you. Imagine 'London 
> bridge' in D major, starting on A on the staff.
> Simple requires you to 
> change octaves several times, whereas Speedy just
> asks you to move your 
> hand a little. (Actually, since the Speedy octave
> runs C-B instead of A-G, 
> this particular example lets you stay all in one
> octave, but that's just a 
> coincidence.)
> 
>  >With Simple Entry, you now have the ability to
>  >make chords quickly
> 
> Yes, this is a big help. I personally don't do a lot
> of piano parts, 
> though, and I've got some nifty tricks in Speedy to
> help me when I do.
> 
>  >I'm going to go out on a limb and
>  >suggest that these two features alone will more
> than
>  >make up for that single scenario for virtually
>  >everyone.
> 
> That's a rather narrow limb you're on. If there's
> one thing that this list 
> has shown over the years, it's that each person has
> his own preferred 
> working method, and one of the strengths of Finale
> is that it doesn't force 
> you into one way of doing things.
> 
>  > And there are MANY more advantages in simple
>  >entry.
> 
> Yes, and I wish some of them had been added to
> Speedy as well!
> 
>  >No, in Simple you can map the keys however you
> want.
>  >Put them in in a row. It's quick and easy, and
> that's
>  >the reason we included the feature.
> 
> Yes, but remapping the pitch keys means remapping
> the things that were on 
> the keys I remapped to -- and I haven't looked
> enough at this to see how 
> much work that will entail. And I still maintain
> that having only one 
> octave of pitches available -- and an octave that
> runs A to G, at that -- 
> is far less intuitive and simple that having three
> octaves available at 
> once, even if Simple does have an octave jump key.
> 
> Aaron.
> 
> 
>  >
>  >Tyler
>  >
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