No, we mean tenor clef for horns, NOT treble clef 8ba. 8ba treble clef is not used in in instrumental scores, (nor should it be). And viola stays in alto clef in a C score, and tenor clefs can be used freely, too.
Please don't take offense, but you are being a bad example for your friends arguing for C scores. They all claim that all conductors 'really know all the transpositions, but why should you have to fool with them all the time if you don't really need to' (my exaggerated paraphrase). You are admitting you don't even know the clefs! Learn the clefs and the transpositions if you want to work with instrumentalists! I studied voice and sang in choirs for years so I could work with vocalists! And keep sharp on the clefs and transpositions by working with them on your scores! [preaching mode off, for now.] I have seen alto clef used for horn parts occasionally in C scores. It's OK, I guess, but it just looks odd, and grabs your eye funny every time it goes by. Years of association of alto clef with viola (or trombones) only, and similar associations with tenor clef, makes it seem very strange to try to associate C clefs with horn. A great staff could work sometimes , if the horns were put 1-3-2-4, descending. Treble clef, F transposition? Now THAT works! I'm being irritating, I know. I've got some problems here, and this is helping me blow off steam. Ray Horton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark D Lew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] No key signature on contemporary score > > On Jan 9, 2004, at 4:47 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > > > Raymond's point about horns is good, because they are played often in > > what > > I think of as the viola range. I have to admit to using the tenor clef > > in > > the conductor's score for long horn passages in that range. > > By tenor clef here, I assume you mean the 8vb treble clef. That was my > thought when I read about the difficulty of horn range being between > tenor and bass clefs. I suppose the viola's alto clef would also be a > reasonable choice. > > Speaking of which, in these C scores that we're talking about, does the > banishment of transposition also entail banishment of clefs other than > treble or bass? In other words, are violas no longer in their usual > alto clef? If so, what are they in instead? > > My main background is vocal, with plenty of experience in SATB. I > confess that on the rare occasions I write for string quartet, I tend > to put the viola in a 8vb treble (which looks like "tenor" to me) while > I'm writing ... but I always switch it back before any string player > gets to see it! > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
