On 3 May 2007 at 7:10, Owain Sutton wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David W. Fenton
> > Sent: 02 May 2007 22:43
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Finale] Conducting in 12/8

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> > But what was described in the post was 12 undifferentiated beats. At
> > least, that was my understanding.
> > 
> > And I say that such a thing does not exist in music played (or
> > perceived) by human beings.
> > 
> > -- 
> > David W. Fenton  
> 
> Damn.  I thought the bar before the Glorifcation de L'Eule in the Rite
> was thirteen, but I checked the score and it's in fact eleven.  So
> maybe twelve is the absolute cut-off beyond which we can't conceive or
> perceive of non-emphasised beats.  (Wait, I just did perceive them in
> my faulty memory, didn't I? ;) )

I defy any performer or listener to not group those 11 beats into 
some accent pattern.

> And maybe the What Would Igor Do rule is actually the one to follow -
> changing ever bar between 3/8, 2/8, 3/8, 4/8 could indeed preserve the
> fliudity of rhythm which seems to be required in this particular
> situation.

Fluidity and meter do not conflict with each other one bit. If 
Stravinsky thought they did, he was simply mistaken. I actually 
suspect his point was something else entirely, though it often is 
interpreted exactly as you suggest.

-- 
David W. Fenton                    http://dfenton.com
David Fenton Associates       http://dfenton.com/DFA/

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