Hi Nigel, Chuck,

I concur with Chuck that if you are separating into layers, then pedal hihat 
"chiks" should be notated below the staff, in the stems-down layer. But I don't 
recall ever seeing a drum part split into layers using Chuck's "hands up, feed 
down" method. It's not that it's not logical -- it makes perfect sense -- but 
in my experience, it's not standard. The more usual split seems to be cymbals 
(except pedal hihat) stems up, everything else stems down. 

Though as I said, my practice, which drummers definitely seem to prefer, is to 
put everything in a single, stems-up layer.

Cheers,

- DJA
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On 27 Sep 2011, at 12:37 PM, Nigel Hanley wrote:

> Thanks Chuck and Darcy, you have together proven my dilemma. I'm in 
> Australia, and was always led to believe in the hand drums, stems up, and 
> foot drums stems down system. Apparently this isn't gospel truth. I can see 
> both arguments, so I'm pleased to hear both sides.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Nigel Hanley
> 
> 
> 
> On 28/09/2011, at 2:25 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> 
>> My experience is that drummers like *everything* in their part written the 
>> same layer -- hihat/cymbal, snare, toms, bass drum, etc -- all with stems 
>> up. It's much easier to see how things line up that way. Most drumers do not 
>> like having the part separated into multiple layers.
>> 
>> However, if you are going to separate into layers, it should definitely be 
>> hat/cymbals in the stems-up layer, and everything else stems down. I've 
>> never seen snare written in the cymbals layer, it (obviously) belongs to the 
>> drum layer.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> - DJA
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 27 Sep 2011, at 12:06 PM, Nigel Hanley wrote:
>> 
>>> Is there a consensus as to whether drum parts should be written with the 
>>> snare in the same voice/layer as the kick drum, as opposed to being part of 
>>> the hi-hat/cymbal layer?
>>> 
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